Dive bombing in Lancasters

[Twist]

OK, enough is enough, I mean come on already, hasn't this gone on long enough? The B24 was fixed sometime ago so any hanky-panky in it and pop goes your wings. Why not do the same with the Lanc's? I watched someone do an Immelman in a Lanc while under 2k alt this morning. That's absolute BS folks.

I know I'm not the first to bring this up judging by comments in the MA this AM. So what I'm asking is why hasn't this been addressed yet?

I once filmed a group of B26's on the deck pulling up near a CV and slinging the bombs at it, also BS, sent film, no reply.

Saw a Lanc do the same thing not long afterward, didn't send film, why bother?

Do I need to start a petition? Call Texas? Drive down there and march out front with a sign? What?

Seems to me a fix for this is a matter of a few simple tweaks. Charge me a tweak fee if you must, just fix this please.

Razer

[Spikes]

It's gamey, true. There was no point in sending a film to them, I don't think they'll do anything about it.

[Banshee7]

I once filmed a group of B26's on the deck pulling up near a CV and slinging the bombs at it, also BS, sent film, no reply.

Saw a Lanc do the same thing not long afterward, didn't send film, why bother?

LOL...i used to do that before the new CVs.  Now, as I have a new outlook on AH  , I don't even bother sinking them.  Matter of fact I say keep em up 

[Spikes]

LOL...i used to do that before the new CVs.  Now, as I have a new outlook on AH  , I don't even bother sinking them.  Matter of fact I say keep em up 

I used to also. Frankly, I'd rather up a 234 and climb to 15K and try to sink the bugger (knowing I WILL NOT hit it) just for the fun of it.

[Banshee7]

I used to also. Frankly, I'd rather up a 234 and climb to 15K and try to sink the bugger (knowing I WILL NOT hit it) just for the fun of it.

Never was able to sink a CV with high alt bombers.  Never really bothered doing that anyway.  Like I stated in my other post, I couldn't care any less if an enemy CV was sunk.  It just gives me more Hurri 1 time 

[CAP1]

OK, enough is enough, I mean come on already, hasn't this gone on long enough? The B24 was fixed sometime ago so any hanky-panky in it and pop goes your wings. Why not do the same with the Lanc's? I watched someone do an Immelman in a Lanc while under 2k alt this morning. That's absolute BS folks.

I know I'm not the first to bring this up judging by comments in the MA this AM. So what I'm asking is why hasn't this been addressed yet?

I once filmed a group of B26's on the deck pulling up near a CV and slinging the bombs at it, also BS, sent film, no reply.

Saw a Lanc do the same thing not long afterward, didn't send film, why bother?

Do I need to start a petition? Call Texas? Drive down there and march out front with a sign? What?

Seems to me a fix for this is a matter of a few simple tweaks. Charge me a tweak fee if you must, just fix this please.

Razer

slinging the bombs, i think did occur in reality.

in all honesty, i wonder what it'd be like if they gave us the skip bombs that lancs used  sometimes.

[Spikes]

Never was able to sink a CV with high alt bombers.  Never really bothered doing that anyway.  Like I stated in my other post, I couldn't care any less if an enemy CV was sunk.  It just gives me more Hurri 1 time 

And more 109F time for I. I can't hit squat with buffs in calibration with CVs...and I don't intend on actually practicing any time soon. I know how to do it, but I don't care to do it...

[Ack-Ack]

I once filmed a group of B26's on the deck pulling up near a CV and slinging the bombs at it, also BS, sent film, no reply.

Toss/Loft bombing is an actual tactic that is used pretty much by all air forces.  Here is an example of one form of loft bombing, the "Over the Shoulder", it's what I used to use in the P-38J when hunting Osties and WWs.



The only possible 'gamey' part would have been using a B-26 but I'm pretty sure the Marauder was capable of performing the most basic loft bombing technique, such as the Pop-Up, Level Toss or even a Dive Toss.

In its most basic from, loft bombing is the act of pulling upwards as you pickle your bombs which gives the bomb additional flight time by starting its ballistic path in an upward vector.  It's a great tactic to use when you're coming off the deck, ensures that you can pickle at low altitude and have your bomb travel the necessary distance to arm itself.


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[Rino]

     I'm not sure the over-the-shoulder tactic was used in WW2.  Lead computing gunsights and
ballistic computers were in their infancy in the 50s.  It was used by the Phantoms I worked on,
mostly for tactical huke practice deliveries.

     Also the only "skip" bombing I've ever heard of Lancasters doing was the 617 squadron dam raids,
and technically that would be "spin" bombing    I do think 4 engined US bombers did skip bomb in
the pacific however.

[Larry]

The Brits had round "ball" bombs that they used to skip bomb ships. I don't know if they were used or even if the lanc carried them.

[Steve]

OK, enough is enough, I mean come on already, hasn't this gone on long enough? The B24 was fixed sometime ago so any hanky-panky in it and pop goes your wings. Why not do the same with the Lanc's? I watched someone do an Immelman in a Lanc while under 2k alt this morning. That's absolute BS folks.

I know I'm not the first to bring this up judging by comments in the MA this AM. So what I'm asking is why hasn't this been addressed yet?

I once filmed a group of B26's on the deck pulling up near a CV and slinging the bombs at it, also BS, sent film, no reply.

Saw a Lanc do the same thing not long afterward, didn't send film, why bother?

Do I need to start a petition? Call Texas? Drive down there and march out front with a sign? What?

Seems to me a fix for this is a matter of a few simple tweaks. Charge me a tweak fee if you must, just fix this please.

Razer

Why do you care? Buffs doing this are going to be low and easy kills.

[grizz441]

Do I need to start a petition? Call Texas? Drive down there and march out front with a sign? What?

Yes.  And take pictures. 

[Curval]

Toss/Loft bombing is an actual tactic that is used pretty much by all air forces.  Here is an example of one form of loft bombing, the "Over the Shoulder", it's what I used to use in the P-38J when hunting Osties and WWs.

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The only possible 'gamey' part would have been using a B-26 but I'm pretty sure the Marauder was capable of performing the most basic loft bombing technique, such as the Pop-Up, Level Toss or even a Dive Toss.

In its most basic from, loft bombing is the act of pulling upwards as you pickle your bombs which gives the bomb additional flight time by starting its ballistic path in an upward vector.  It's a great tactic to use when you're coming off the deck, ensures that you can pickle at low altitude and have your bomb travel the necessary distance to arm itself.


ack-ack

That looks like a very tough way to get any sort of accuracy.

[LePaul]

Heck if you hit someone like that, you should get a LOT more points!

[Ack-Ack]

     I'm not sure the over-the-shoulder tactic was used in WW2.  Lead computing gunsights and
ballistic computers were in their infancy in the 50s.  It was used by the Phantoms I worked on,
mostly for tactical huke practice deliveries.

Considering loft bombing was really development post WW2 as a somewhat safe way of delivering tactical nuclear ordnance, doubt the over-the-shoulder method was even used during the war.  However, through trial and error (when it comes to learning how to "aim") it's a method that works quite well in AH.  

I've even used the "Pop-Up" and "Level Toss" methods in the B-25H with some success, though with 3 1,000lb bombs, you really don't have to be all that accurate just need to get close.


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