Perk the Wirblewind and Ostwind

[BnZs]

Arguments about the rarity of the Wirbelwind and Ostwind...okay AA cannons were NOT  rare. AA guns mounted on a Panzer chassis were what was rare. You had lots of categories of AA guns that could be trucked around and set up wherever they were needed. HTC could model this complexity to make people feel better about the "rarity" of the Wirbel/Osti, OR, HTC can do something far simpler, and model a form of these guns already mounted to some sort of GV, which is what they did and I can't disagree.

We don't even have any heavy AA except on CVs and auto-puffy.

Examples of AA guns we could model that are "represented" by the WW and Osti at this point:

Bofors 40MM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bofors_40_mm_gun

Flak 30/38
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2_cm_FlaK_30

Oerlikon
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oerlikon_20_mm_cannon

Polsten
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polsten


I agree that the WW deserves a lower ENY and perhaps a light perk on account of its higher effectiveness though.

Point taken.  However, that doesnt hide the fact that the wirby is that much more effective than a osty, is able to take out tanks with a few seconds of fire,

I simply haven't seen this to be true. It can track tanks at best, maybe it will take out a Panzer although I have never seen it. Effective range for a WW to track a tank is far beyond point-blank for the tank's main gun.

[druski85]

You can say the same of the Osti, which was the primary town killing gv before the Wirble.  The Wirble just has the spray factor going for it.  Like a Yak9T vs a Jug.  You can put out a greater volume of fire and hope to hit something because the greater amount of ammo is there to do it.

You also realize all the "Perk the IL2" threads there are?  Seems pretty even to me.

No perks.  Shoot the turrets.


wrongway

Yea I understand that wrongway, I'm just saying it's yet another aspect of the whirlybird power.  Also, WW's can drop a town faster than ostis, even if less efficiently. (ammo-wise)  Finally, I feel WW's are much more effective against soft GV's or the treads of tanks at distances less than 1k, due to said spray factor.  Don't need to land the hits, just need to get a group of rounds close.  Therefore, the average AH'er is going to have more success with the whirlybird than the osti in this role.

I never said perk the WW