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Re: AMD based system suggestions
« Reply #15 on: February 12, 2009, 02:08:11 PM »
None, I learned my lesson the hard way, pay the price and get Intel


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Re: AMD based system suggestions
« Reply #16 on: February 12, 2009, 02:10:26 PM »
If I were to build an AMD machine I would only consider the quad cores. However, If you're going to quad cores why not go with the cooler running and cheaper e8500 or e8400.

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Re: AMD based system suggestions
« Reply #17 on: February 12, 2009, 02:16:24 PM »
If I were to build an AMD machine I would only consider the quad cores. However, If you're going to quad cores why not go with the cooler running and cheaper e8500 or e8400.


The E8500 still outperforms the Phemon II in Game benchmarks but not all benchmarks. Most Intel Duo cores(8500) do outperfrom most quad cores in gaming including the mid priced Intels..
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Re: AMD based system suggestions
« Reply #18 on: February 12, 2009, 03:08:14 PM »
Good overall review...
http://www.guru3d.com/article/amd-phenom-ii-x4-920-and-940-review-test/20

As per the article I'd be careful if upgrading but for a new build it looks very promising. "Stock" overclocking of about 3.8 on OEM air cooling appears to give gaming performance equal or better then the intel i7 940 CPU at high res. I'd think this is a great CPU for AH type gaming...BTW the 920 is $189 w/free shipping at newegg
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Re: AMD based system suggestions
« Reply #19 on: February 12, 2009, 04:53:40 PM »
Ok...

   Hi all...:)...and thankyou Dred for the posting..:).... I am the squadmate..and from what I have been reading... looks like maybe I better reconsider my AMD position...
   I base this on the moolah factor... and since...i'm lookin at a hard deck of 1200.00 dollars MINIMUM...available right now.. and another 500.00 in next week or so available..i better be thinkin Intel it seems... AMD is obviously the way to go if yuor spending 500 bucks..I'm not ..:)

   So heres what I'm lookin at...  will be a DEDICATED gaming system... i got three other boxes for surfing and work related tasks... this is for AH and gaming ONLY... O/S will be Vista...based on future support and W7 release due out later in year... and yes..i know that XP Pro is supported til 2014... but to be frank.. I like the Vista security, LOVE the Vista interface, and have had a TOTAL...  3 Vista crashes in last 19 months on my laptop... i can average 3 XP crashes in a week ...

   I will be runnin a full CH Products suite... Track IR Pro... and multiple monitor setup ...as well as plans for a not to distant future simpit...

   I'm going "reasonably"...nutz on this rig ...lol....I've earned it ....:):)....  so...feel free to suggest away...the good..the bad..the ugly... I want to hear it all...

   Only other issue..is do i build it myself...?? or let Rich do it?

   Thanks all for your suggestions...

   agflit

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Re: AMD based system suggestions
« Reply #20 on: February 12, 2009, 04:57:56 PM »
Ok...

   Hi all...:)...and thankyou Dred for the posting..:).... I am the squadmate..and from what I have been reading... looks like maybe I better reconsider my AMD position...
   I base this on the moolah factor... and since...i'm lookin at a hard deck of 1200.00 dollars MINIMUM...available right now.. and another 500.00 in next week or so available..i better be thinkin Intel it seems... AMD is obviously the way to go if yuor spending 500 bucks..I'm not ..:)

   So heres what I'm lookin at...  will be a DEDICATED gaming system... i got three other boxes for surfing and work related tasks... this is for AH and gaming ONLY... O/S will be Vista...based on future support and W7 release due out later in year... and yes..i know that XP Pro is supported til 2014... but to be frank.. I like the Vista security, LOVE the Vista interface, and have had a TOTAL...  3 Vista crashes in last 19 months on my laptop... i can average 3 XP crashes in a week ...

   I will be runnin a full CH Products suite... Track IR Pro... and multiple monitor setup ...as well as plans for a not to distant future simpit...

   I'm going "reasonably"...nutz on this rig ...lol....I've earned it ....:):)....  so...feel free to suggest away...the good..the bad..the ugly... I want to hear it all...

   Only other issue..is do i build it myself...?? or let Rich do it?

   Thanks all for your suggestions...

   agflit

So you have the CH, Tracker IR, and monitors already?  Basically we're looking at a new computer box + Vista (which flavor of Vista do you want?)

How experienced are you with simple PC repair?  Can you swap out a hard drive or put in some RAM?  If you can, then you can build a whole rig.  A lot of us will tell you it's really fun to do and there is a sense of pride knowing you built it yourself, not paid someone else to do it.  If you're dead afraid of touching the inside of your computer, then building at this time may not be up your alley.  I don't like talking people into things if they have no clue or are really afraid.
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Re: AMD based system suggestions
« Reply #21 on: February 12, 2009, 05:02:37 PM »
If I was going to build a box right now I'd consider AMD vs the icore. Basically you can get more bang for the buck in a mid range box based on what I'm reading. As for build yourself vs outsourcing if you've never done it then if the cost is reasonable outsourcing isnt a bad way to go. I have no idea what tildeath charges but given Dels comments (among others) I'd certainly think its a viable option. Big difference between a built system and a tuned one.
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Re: AMD based system suggestions
« Reply #22 on: February 12, 2009, 05:05:44 PM »
I've been daydreaming about a new Core I7 system (which I won't build as my new rig is still less than a year old) so I just happened to have this parked in my newegg wish list.  This is exactly what I would build if I were doing it today.  You can take out the speakers, monitor, etc. and add in Vista (I didn't want to change this in my wish list):

   
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Re: AMD based system suggestions
« Reply #23 on: February 12, 2009, 07:04:57 PM »
Ok...

   Hi all...:)...and thankyou Dred for the posting..:).... I am the squadmate..and from what I have been reading... looks like maybe I better reconsider my AMD position...
   I base this on the moolah factor... and since...i'm lookin at a hard deck of 1200.00 dollars MINIMUM...available right now.. and another 500.00 in next week or so available..i better be thinkin Intel it seems... AMD is obviously the way to go if yuor spending 500 bucks..I'm not ..:)

   So heres what I'm lookin at...  will be a DEDICATED gaming system... i got three other boxes for surfing and work related tasks... this is for AH and gaming ONLY... O/S will be Vista...based on future support and W7 release due out later in year... and yes..i know that XP Pro is supported til 2014... but to be frank.. I like the Vista security, LOVE the Vista interface, and have had a TOTAL...  3 Vista crashes in last 19 months on my laptop... i can average 3 XP crashes in a week ...

   I will be runnin a full CH Products suite... Track IR Pro... and multiple monitor setup ...as well as plans for a not to distant future simpit...

   I'm going "reasonably"...nutz on this rig ...lol....I've earned it ....:):)....  so...feel free to suggest away...the good..the bad..the ugly... I want to hear it all...

   Only other issue..is do i build it myself...?? or let Rich do it?

   Thanks all for your suggestions...

   agflit
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Well boys. theres the story straight from the mule.. I mean horses mouth.

I trust with that info and the price line some of you are going to be damn near orgasmic in this build assist LOL
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Re: AMD based system suggestions
« Reply #24 on: February 13, 2009, 03:07:48 AM »
My cheaper AMD build. Went with a 1kW PSU for future 4870X2 CF upgrade.
Currently playing AH2 on Windows7, and yes this fast machine makes my mad augering skills l33tz!!


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Re: AMD based system suggestions
« Reply #25 on: February 13, 2009, 09:50:58 AM »
My cheaper AMD build. Went with a 1kW PSU for future 4870X2 CF upgrade.
Currently playing AH2 on Windows7, and yes this fast machine makes my mad augering skills l33tz!!

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What was the $60 OEM AMD gift?  Also, I'm going to track your packages and find out where you live and I may be underneath your bed...waiting for you.  Say about 1am Sunday?

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Re: AMD based system suggestions
« Reply #26 on: February 13, 2009, 12:38:02 PM »
I have an AMD Athlon x 2 5000+  w/ 2 gigs of RAM.  My vid card is only a 7600, but I play AH w/ hi res and detail sliders on full detail and stay at a steady 75 fps (max screen refresh rate), even though I have 50 processes running.  It's the first AMD I've ever owned and I have nothing bad to say about it.  Works great for anything I do.

I knew that I had a reason to call you "Stranger" on occasion! hehehehe

You have 50 processes running under Winblows XP?  Are you just mad or insaine?  I run an AMD 9850 X4 with 4 gigs of ram and two Sapphire ATI 3870 vid cards in crossfire and only run 19 processes and I can trim it down further if I wanted.  Why on earth would you have 50 processes running?  To get back on topic... I've run both AMD and Intel rigs and for the bang for buck department, I prefer the AMD but if you want performance without regard to the initial cost, it's Intel.  There are no problems with the AMD quad core machines that were noticed with a lot of the earlier AMD dual core rigs without the patch.  No patch is needed with the quad core series of AMD processors and you don't need to change the compatibility mode under winblows either.

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Re: AMD based system suggestions
« Reply #27 on: February 13, 2009, 01:13:31 PM »
I wouldn't quite call 50 processes mad or insane.  If you have enough ram and a multi-core processor, there is no reason for alarm.  My rig which I use for everything I do (designing, coding, gaming, browsing, movies, music, etc) has about 42 processes on start up.  I'd say about 10 of those are programs I used very frequently, be it Skype, steam, lcd on my keyboard manager, extensis, version cue, gmail, trillian, nod32 etc.  If I was benchmarking my system to get every last bit of strength out of it, I'd close down everything etc.  But for every day use, convenience outweighs the minimal FPS gain or the 3 seconds saved on loading times.

Now my mother-in-law's stock Dell Inspiron 1525 laptop that had 85 processes running at start up....now THAT is a problem.
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Re: AMD based system suggestions
« Reply #28 on: February 13, 2009, 01:38:52 PM »
What was the $60 OEM AMD gift?  Also, I'm going to track your packages and find out where you live and I may be underneath your bed...waiting for you.  Say about 1am Sunday?

:P

ups tracking only says pearland, tx. rofl. i didn't think about that when i posted it up!

the $60 gift is a game called "stalker" but i haven't installed it yet. too busy defending A76 last night in orange vs. the knights!