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Re: Huge Map Arena Cap 100
« Reply #45 on: February 13, 2009, 08:20:09 AM »
I think i speak for everyone on this matter when i say nothing at all.
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Re: Huge Map Arena Cap 100
« Reply #46 on: February 13, 2009, 08:32:33 AM »
What I do know is it sucks not being able to find a fight because there are only 80 people

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Re: Huge Map Arena Cap 100
« Reply #47 on: February 13, 2009, 08:42:28 AM »
So I guess the point of this thread is to institute a "side cap" and not an "arena cap", huh?  Do you want it so if the numbers are imbalanced in an arena, that anyone coming into said arena cannot join a side with more numbers than the othe two, and the system should automatically assign you to the lowest-numbered side and make it so you cannot switch for at least an hour.  So, if you only fly Rook, and Rook's outnumber Bish and Nit, you will be forced to join the lowest-numbered side - period.

Then you'd come here and whine about not being able to fly with the horde.

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Re: Huge Map Arena Cap 100
« Reply #48 on: February 13, 2009, 10:06:03 AM »
So I guess the point of this thread is to institute a "side cap" and not an "arena cap", huh?  Do you want it so if the numbers are imbalanced in an arena, that anyone coming into said arena cannot join a side with more numbers than the othe two, and the system should automatically assign you to the lowest-numbered side and make it so you cannot switch for at least an hour.  So, if you only fly Rook, and Rook's outnumber Bish and Nit, you will be forced to join the lowest-numbered side - period.

Then you'd come here and whine about not being able to fly with the horde.

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Something like that was tried before. You were added to a queue to wait for a spot on your team to open up. Check it out!

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Re: Huge Map Arena Cap 100
« Reply #49 on: February 13, 2009, 01:47:53 PM »
Switching sides prevents imbalances.  I don't see what the caps have to do with people switching sides or not, that is a personal choice.




Look at your LW roster once in a while...there isn't anything in the game preventing gross side imbalances, but there are plenty of things that contribute to it.   

Please carefully study the following graphics, Mr. Mensa, and please share with all of us how that I or any other knight could have switched sides to prevent the imbalance and improve the situation:


























I don't see anyone switching sides to prevent imbalances in these examples.  Do you?


Arena caps ARE a contributing factor, depending on time of day and population in the largest LW arena at the time.  Around noon CST, you can't even get into LW orange--and if you want to participate in the most popular arena (LW) you are stuck in blue.  If you fly knights....be prepared for grossly distorted side imbalances.  It's a fact. 






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Re: Huge Map Arena Cap 100
« Reply #50 on: February 13, 2009, 01:51:50 PM »
     Maybe it's just me, but it sure seems like the complaints about ENY and maps
always seem to come from the landgrabbers.  I guess it's more important to have
numbers and a big map when you're trying to avoid actual ACM.  :lol
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Re: Huge Map Arena Cap 100
« Reply #51 on: February 13, 2009, 02:02:09 PM »
You know what it looks like to me.........  Knits have a 2.79 perk adjustment bonus.  Heck I have to wake up at 0600 to get a bonus like that.
Bish / 35

Knights / 20

Rooks /41

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Re: Huge Map Arena Cap 100
« Reply #52 on: February 13, 2009, 02:28:55 PM »
You claim to have been playing this game for quite a long time and you have no idea how the population caps work?  I mean, there have been hundreds of threads about this since the caps have been put in place, in fact one thread was just done a few weeks ago.

Skuzzy should put a sticky up in the forums explaining how the population caps work so people won't feel it's necessary to post yet another "200 guys want to fly LW so cap is set to 100??? WTF" thread every other day.


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Re: Huge Map Arena Cap 100
« Reply #53 on: February 13, 2009, 02:49:42 PM »
HEY ACK-ACK WHERE U BORN GROUCHY


Your caps lock key is stuck.


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Re: Huge Map Arena Cap 100
« Reply #54 on: February 13, 2009, 07:43:00 PM »
See Rule #4
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Re: Huge Map Arena Cap 100
« Reply #55 on: February 13, 2009, 08:13:04 PM »
« Last Edit: February 14, 2009, 06:28:03 AM by Skuzzy »
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Re: Huge Map Arena Cap 100
« Reply #56 on: February 13, 2009, 08:30:16 PM »
Strike two...


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« Reply #57 on: February 14, 2009, 12:56:07 AM »
And that's how they really are. Yesterday (Friday), I did some screenshots at intervals and put the numbers into a table





The 100 max cap was in effect for about one hour.


If you would raise the minimum CAP to 200 players, you would only postpone and amplyfy the problem, because the second arena would have taken longer to get toacceptable player numbers. In this case it would have taken more two hours, during which you would see 200 in Orange and like 50 in Blue. Please not that the max CAP in Orange would still be in place in thsi hypothetical example, as Blue would have to reach 140 players first before the caps would get dynamic again





The complaints would be the same: "WTF? 200 in Orange but 50 in Blue? Fix it! Why can't you even out the two Arenas?" ;)



 
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Re: Huge Map Arena Cap 100
« Reply #58 on: February 14, 2009, 01:04:51 AM »
Only Snail, ONLY you would make a chart with "Blue represented by Yellow" and "Orange represented by Blue".
Stop confusing us! :)
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Re: Huge Map Arena Cap 100
« Reply #59 on: February 14, 2009, 01:08:37 AM »
Only Snail, ONLY you would make a chart with "Blue represented by Yellow" and "Orange represented by Blue".
Stop confusing us! :)

LOL, I'm sorry about that. You are completely right, I should have adjusted the colours.  :o

I still hope my point isn't lost completely...  :pray
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