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Offline BnZs

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Trim oddities
« on: February 13, 2009, 02:39:52 PM »
Okay, I've already posted something about this, but since I got no response, thought I'd try again.

P-47s-You can manually input full nose-down trim, but hitting the key to trim elevator nose-up does nothing.

P-51D, P-40E-You can only manually input about half the range of nose-down elevator trim. However, using the shift-X key in a dive, the combat trim will still input the full range of nose-down trim. And the manual nose-up trim key still does nothing.

Aileron and Rudder trim seems to be working normally. What is going on here though?

Will test more planes for these oddities.
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Re: Trim oddities
« Reply #1 on: February 13, 2009, 02:44:53 PM »
Okay, just tested the A-20. Trying to trim nose down trims it nose up and the other elevator trimming command still does nothing.
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Re: Trim oddities
« Reply #2 on: February 13, 2009, 02:47:21 PM »
Manual elevator trim doesn't seem to work at all with either A6M.

Edit: Same thing when I tried the 109E and K.
« Last Edit: February 13, 2009, 02:51:40 PM by BnZs »
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Re: Trim oddities
« Reply #3 on: February 13, 2009, 02:48:25 PM »
Works well with the any of the Lightnings.


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Re: Trim oddities
« Reply #4 on: February 13, 2009, 02:49:33 PM »
i've just embarked into the world of no combat trim.  only took 7 yrs.  i'm slow.  having more fun than i have in ages.  i'll give those planes a test to see what happens on my end.

do you notice the set trim command  .  working?  i "seem" to which causes me to question if it does or does not.  should be apparent, right?

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Re: Trim oddities
« Reply #5 on: February 13, 2009, 02:50:54 PM »
I suggest flying 38s from now on  :aok
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Re: Trim oddities
« Reply #6 on: February 13, 2009, 02:52:57 PM »
Works well with the any of the Lightnings.


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I just tried it, it would let me run it all the trim all the way down on the P-38J manually but not back up. I've tried switching which keys I have set for trim inputs so it is apparently not a keyboard problem.

EDIT: I just noticed that on the P-38 and P-47, tapping the key once causes the trim to run all the way down. I tried setting a controller button to trim up and still does nothing.
« Last Edit: February 13, 2009, 02:56:50 PM by BnZs »
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Re: Trim oddities
« Reply #7 on: February 13, 2009, 02:56:40 PM »
I just tried it, it would let me run it all the trim all the way down on the P-38J manually but not back up. I've tried switching which keys I have set for trim inputs so it is apparently not a keyboard problem.

It's something on your end.  There are no issues with manually trimming the P-38 and I've never experienced any issues with trimming any other plane to its full extent.


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Re: Trim oddities
« Reply #8 on: February 13, 2009, 02:59:46 PM »
Bizzare. I can't imagine what it could be, since the keyboard is working normally,still inputs other commands (Including aileron and rudder trim) just fine, as does the control stick.

EDIT: Just tried turning off combat trim completely in preferences. The elevator trim runs to nose-down immediately when I spawn in a Jug.

So, anybody had this problem before, got any advice?
« Last Edit: February 13, 2009, 03:09:43 PM by BnZs »
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Re: Trim oddities
« Reply #9 on: February 13, 2009, 03:21:55 PM »
All trim functions definitely work in the k4.

It's something on your end for sure.
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Re: Trim oddities
« Reply #10 on: February 13, 2009, 03:24:19 PM »
Edit: Same thing when I tried the 109E and K.
Definitely something on your end. I use trim for maneuvering on all 109's, especially the E and the K.
Not sure what the problem would be, though...

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Re: Trim oddities
« Reply #11 on: February 13, 2009, 03:33:54 PM »
I have always used the rotaries on the x52 to trim the plane. I haven't noticed anything odd about any of the aircraft and how they behave. Is this a function of using "keyboard" trim?


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Re: Trim oddities
« Reply #12 on: February 13, 2009, 03:47:09 PM »
Tried two different keyboards, same thing.
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Re: Trim oddities
« Reply #13 on: February 13, 2009, 08:47:06 PM »
Tried two different keyboards, same thing.

Let me see if I understand what the issue is...you cannot fully trim either negative or positive trim using the keyboard?  Do you by any chance have any of the trim assigned to an axis?


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Re: Trim oddities
« Reply #14 on: February 13, 2009, 10:10:59 PM »
Let me see if I understand what the issue is...you cannot fully trim either negative or positive trim using the keyboard?  Do you by any chance have any of the trim assigned to an axis?


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Varies with different planes, oddly enough.
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