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Re: Eny
« Reply #30 on: February 18, 2009, 12:16:29 AM »
What if ENY was based on pilots performance? A "uber tax" if you will. What I mean is some guys can take a 262 up and rank up the kills, me I run into things with it. Clearly I can't fly it well enough to justify paying 200 perkies for it. Now if I could fly it to it's strenghts and rain terror down on the main arena it should cost me alot to fly it. But I can assure you that if I'm in one, no one has to be afraid. But someone like Snailman for example can take a 262 out and come back with 5 or 10 kills.

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Re: Eny
« Reply #31 on: February 18, 2009, 12:17:26 AM »
The 152 is starting its emergence, much like the 109K did about 2 years ago. Like the 109K, the 152 will go from a little used aircraft to a much more popular aircraft but it will take time.

The interesting thing is the same group that introduced the 109K to the main population is doing the same to the 152.
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« Reply #32 on: February 18, 2009, 01:17:45 AM »
The 152 will never be more popular than the 190D, or the 190As. The almost total instabilities in the flight model means only a small niche market of flyers will really fly it with regularity.

Nowhere near the same as the K-4, which has had 109G10 fans since back in AH1 when it was introduced. That plane gained popularity for other reasons than firepower and speed at 40k, which are pretty much all the 152 has going for it  :D

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« Reply #33 on: February 18, 2009, 02:55:27 AM »
But the 152 is catching up nicely right now. If M00t & Grizz keep flying it at the same rate, it may be even more next tour when I'm back in that Ta-152 too :D

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Re: Eny
« Reply #34 on: February 18, 2009, 03:32:05 AM »
Grizz will be off for sports season soon, and I'll probably hit the books all day long and quit pulling all nighters, maybe all the way to sept. And even then I'll be that much more involved in studying. It does seem to be used more than ever though. I don't know if that trend will keep its stats afloat. I think Grizz said he'd done 1k last tour, and I'll probably end up with 600-800 tops this one.
I never understood why it was ever perked at one time.
It was quite a bit more competitive back then. e.g. It clearly beat the P51D in all dives, and held speed much better.  The tail was more manageable too, or that same (better still, back then) E retention helped it keep up in tight maneuvers even longer than it does now. 
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Re: Eny
« Reply #35 on: February 18, 2009, 04:03:04 PM »
 Not to go off topic but it occurred to me maybe HTC has set eny to encourage use of a plane.
Everyone seems to focus on the negative aspect of eny,limiting one's ability to fly their choice,yet no one has pointed out that a 31 eny might encourage a few to fly that plane.

 I'm not saying the values are correct as they are,just that having certain eny's attached to this or that A/C could boost it's use when otherwise it would sit in the hanger and all the work put into making it would go to waist.

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Re: Eny
« Reply #36 on: February 18, 2009, 05:50:15 PM »
The 152 will never be more popular than the 190D, or the 190As.

According to Lusche's information, the 152 has already claimed more kills than the 190A5. You spoke WAY too soon...
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Re: Eny
« Reply #37 on: February 18, 2009, 06:39:38 PM »
According to Lusche's information, the 152 has already claimed more kills than the 190A5. You spoke WAY too soon...

When me and moot go back into hibernation, the 152 kill total will drop in half :)

Btw Lusche, how do you get those stats again, I tried to go into Kill Stats expanded form but couldn't figure it out.

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Re: Eny
« Reply #38 on: February 18, 2009, 06:48:29 PM »
When me and moot go back into hibernation, the 152 kill total will drop in half :)

Btw Lusche, how do you get those stats again, I tried to go into Kill Stats expanded form but couldn't figure it out.

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Re: Eny
« Reply #39 on: February 18, 2009, 06:56:38 PM »
According to Lusche's information, the 152 has already claimed more kills than the 190A5. You spoke WAY too soon...

Going by last month's stats (it's a full tour, at least)
749,762 kills by fighters, of which the Ta152H-1 only had 2717 kills.

2717 / 749,762 = 0.0036 (truncated).

So that's about 1/3 of 1%.

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Re: Eny
« Reply #40 on: February 18, 2009, 07:04:57 PM »
But the 152 is catching up nicely right now. If M00t & Grizz keep flying it at the same rate, it may be even more next tour when I'm back in that Ta-152 too :D

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As of today it has 3,346 kills, but adding all the fighter kills up alone (not counting GVs, or bombers, or attack only planes, which will drive the % lower still) best case scenario it only has

3,346 / 170,863 = 0.019 (truncated), hardly even 2%, far below the top rankings.


Not sure how you're arriving at over 8% total kills with a piddly 3000???  :huh

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Re: Eny
« Reply #41 on: February 18, 2009, 07:34:54 PM »
Looks like he just took german planes into account.  What surprised me looking at total kills was the panzer had more kills than even the P51D.  It's k/d ratio sucked but that other topic....guess this is aces low.  Also noticed the 262 is way down in kills.

On topic I want the 205 to have a higher ENY...comeon 205 = 109k4  I don't think so.  The K4 has so many more tricks up it's sleave.  But I can shoot down a poorly flown K4 witha  205....so I don't know.  There are several planes that need to be looked at again because I don't think eny has changed on any plane in the 2.5 years I have been here. 
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Re: Eny
« Reply #42 on: February 18, 2009, 08:53:37 PM »

On topic I want the 205 to have a higher ENY...comeon 205 = 109k4  I don't think so.  The K4 has so many more tricks up it's sleave.  But I can shoot down a poorly flown K4 witha  205....so I don't know.  There are several planes that need to be looked at again because I don't think eny has changed on any plane in the 2.5 years I have been here. 

Actually the 205 used to have a higher eny, 20 as it is set now, seems about appropriate for that plane.  The k4 should probably be 10-15 eny though.

But if a plane has 20 eny or 40 eny, who cares?  Eny caps will never (Well maybe once ina blue moon) prevent you from flying it.  Perks? heh who cares.