109G6 Pilots, step in

[humble]

I'm pretty sure that Blitzin and I didn't have more than 1.5k separation during our D-11 vs N fights... But I invite you to try it out with someone you feel to be near your abilities and report the results to us.

I have no clue where I fit in the pecking order, I'm a much better tactician then pure dueler IMO. That tends to lead me to more of the "lesser" rides since I have a pretty high comfort level working the unders and reverses and it eliminates a lot of the issues I have with marginal (at best) gunnery skills. We've got a bunch of guys who fly the jugs (in squad) so I have a bit of feel for them. To me the D11 has always been the best jug (outside of range) by a fair margin. Next time Bat and I are in the DA I'll fly a few with him. He's a better overall stick and certainly a better jug driver but we match up pretty well unless he drags out his A game on me...

[MjTalon]

Anyway, back to the aircraft....

I could never figure out why guys would talk about how great the G-14 and G-6 were...until I took off the gondies.  

I now fly the G-6 more than anything else, and really enjoy it a great deal.  I know a lot of people want the 30 mm, but given the unpredictable nature of it (especially against spits) I'll pass.  If I want a hard hitting, slow cannon I'll take a K-4 up.  In the same time it takes me to line up a tater blast, I can snap off enough 12.7/20 mm combo to take a chunk out of my opponent anyway.  

Advantages:
1.  Generally underestimated.
2.  Very powerful climb with wep.
3.  Stable weapon platform.
4.  Pretty.
6.  Style points.  Very few rides are as satisfying.  

Neutral:
1. Weapons.  Not the hardest hitting without the gondies, (keep em off!) but good enough.
2. Speed.  Faster than the F-4, but still outclassed by many LW birds.
3. Turning.  It can crank around pretty well with throttle and rudder management, but she's no F model.

Weaknesses:
1.  High speed maneuvering. (same with all 109's.)
2.  "Soft" Hub cannon.  Someone noted this earlier, and I seem to experience it as well.

May i introduce you into the ways of the 11th my friend...

[Kotari]

I haven´t had much success in G6, if in any plane for that matter, but for me the most difficulties come from facing the uber rides which seem to do everything alot faster, tighter and easier.
Spits in particular seem to defy all rules of nature when nose pointed up, well actually if the fight even evolves to that from all the HO attempts i guess
G6 is a really nice bird, and i also do want to learn it properly.

I raise my hat to all, who fly G6 as their main ride. It sure takes skill to master. 

And my choice of skin is naturally FAF/MT-453 by Kanttori.

[Oldman731]

I like the G-6 for it's history. The G-6 is quite simply the most produced aircraft we have in game that is represented by a single production variant. Over 12,000 were built. This is over a third of total Bf.109 production. It is the generic 109.
On top of all of this, I really do just like the way it feels. Even though performance is not up to par with most late war aircraft, from the first time I took it up it just seems that it responds the way a 109 (well, any aircraft for that matter) should respond.
I do fly other 109's, and 190's, a lot- I particularly like the F and G-14- but the G-6 will always be my favorite.

Agreed.  The history is key.

I also agree with whoever noted that people exaggerate the practical effect of the performance differences between the G2 and G6. 

- oldman

[LLv34_Camouflage]

For the past ...year?.... I've been flying the G6 pretty much exclusively. Why?  I used to fly with 3x20mm G2, but then decided to drop the gondies and learn how to shoot. After a few hundred assists and no kills, I finally came to the conclusion that the podless G2 lacks a bit of punch (atleast in my hands). Instead of putting the gondies back on, I decided to trade in the pea shooters and switch to the 13mms. Oh yeah, and got the better radio as well.

I think the skin also was a factor. Kanttori's MT-453 is a beauty. Here's a nice shot by Mipoikel, of us two on patrol.


Camo

[HAMMERR]

I think one of the big things about the Bf.109G-6 is that people overestimate the G-2's performance advantage over it and underestimate the positive effects of the MG131's (which don't appear in performance numbers but make the aircraft more balanced and of course give a boost in firepower). The G-14 is there just to give some perspective.
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BTW, Bosco, I redid the weathering on 'White 1', it looks... not like crap, now. I'm going to be redoing the other one as well, it's just wrong all over
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Where can I find this performance tool?

[dkff49]

I have been flying the 109's alot lately and for the most part it has been the 109G2. Though I have flown the G6 from time to time, I don't find my luck changing very much between them or have I noticed that I need to change my tactics much either.

What I do like about the 109's though is the opposite torque from most of the rides flown in the MA's. It amazes me as to how fast you can bleed someone's "E" when you force them to turn a direction that works against their torque.

It has an amazing turning ability anyway with some flaps and throttle control.

The one thing I like the least though is the view out of it. I have lost many cons while being obstucted by the cross pieces in the canopy and the 6 view is not that great either.


BTW here you go hammerr

http://www.my2cents.co.nz/AKUAG/Resources_Files/PerfComp.aspx

[dkff49]

oops I did something stupid

[MjTalon]

I'll post some screen shots of my canopy for you 109 pilots so you can see that it's not hard to see out of the cockpit if set properly. 

[Lusche]

What I do like about the 109's though is the opposite torque from most of the rides flown in the MA's.

That's fine if you like it, but it actually isn't

109 have same torque direction as most MA rides, their prop rotating clockwise.

Counterclockwise rotating (and therefore having torque opposite from standard) are:

Yak-9U, Yak-9T
Typhoon, Tempest
Spitfire XIV

[dkff49]

That's fine if you like it, but it actually isn't

109 have same torque direction as most MA rides, their prop rotating clockwise.

Counterclockwise rotating (and therefore having torque opposite from standard) are:

Yak-9U, Yak-9T
Typhoon, Tempest
Spitfire XIV

ok i believe you but I thought I read somewhere that they were opposite

my bad. guess I am just luckier than I thought.

 

yet another oppurtuntiy to look like an idiot 

[Kotari]

I'll post some screen shots of my canopy for you 109 pilots so you can see that it's not hard to see out of the cockpit if set properly. 

For me as a TrackIR user, its a matter of acting like a "monkey in crack" all around my chair to be able to see the con 

[Xasthur]

Here is a 109 clip from IL2 for the hearty    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G60fP6EPZIo&feature=related

Golly-geenit! Not squealing Nightwish again!

What is it with people and making the 109 look like a gay pride symbol by showing it with that song?

 

This would be a far better action clip song for the 109:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUw1opCo56g

 

[stodd]

Funny, Mjtalon makes a thread about the 109 and Chalene keeps jumping in to flame him, like an idot.