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Re: My New Build For Aces High- Feedback Desired
« Reply #15 on: March 02, 2009, 09:24:18 AM »
Do youself a favor and pm Tildeath. Let him build it for you. You will get more preformance for your money. And he is a pleasure to work with.

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Re: My New Build For Aces High- Feedback Desired
« Reply #16 on: March 02, 2009, 03:08:35 PM »
Do youself a favor and pm Tildeath. Let him build it for you. You will get more preformance for your money. And he is a pleasure to work with.

He can install spellchecker too.  :devil
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Re: My New Build For Aces High- Feedback Desired
« Reply #17 on: March 02, 2009, 10:18:44 PM »
If you're going to spend that much money on a computer, like eagl said, why not use SSD.  I'd only stick with RAID 0 if you were on a strict budget which doesn't appear to be so.  RAID 0 works great, but you have to remember to always back up your data because the failure chances are doubled.

Also, what programs are you going to be using that use 12gb of ram?

From what I've read the SSD drives are still kind of a work in progress. I'd rather wait for that technology to stabalize and deflate in price. The traditional drives have reached their pinnacle of evolution in terms of storage space and speed. I can always add an SSD afterward.

As far as the ram goes, compared to the cost of everything else another 200 bucks to max out the ram is not a big deal. I remember when ram was $1,000 for a 256mb stick...The 12 Gigs of Corsair was only $375.00 total.
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Re: My New Build For Aces High- Feedback Desired
« Reply #18 on: March 02, 2009, 10:20:37 PM »
All that and no sound card or SATA optical drive(s)?

I usually just go with on-board sound, my hearing is poor and with the wife and the new baby I have to wear a head-set all the time anyway, so money for a nice sound card is just wasted. I have two SATA optical drives selected, but as they had no impact on AH I just didn't list them.
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Re: My New Build For Aces High- Feedback Desired
« Reply #19 on: March 02, 2009, 10:22:36 PM »
If you decide to go modular with a Tagan PSU you will need the 1100 or 1300 watt PSU the BZ 900 and under will not power the i7 boards without showing a graphics failure on the EVGA x58 boards.

Also WD has 640GB (WD6401AALS) drives that are alot less monies and are almost as fast as the Raptors for 1/3 the cost and double the storage (when in Raid 0)  Some here suggested SSD drives.  They are still high dollar and not reliable, very high failure rates.  If you decide to go this route it almost pays for the 2nd video card.

Memory I prefer OCZ part number OCZ3X1600LV6GK  Your going to have a hard time with 12gb of the Corsair getting it to actually run at 1600 at the rated timings using the QPI.   You need  Intel Extreme Memory Profiles (XMP), to get 12gb to operate at rated speeds over the sold kit sizes (3gb - 6gb).  These are profiles that are embedded in the memory and read by the BIOS and set.

Thanks, I appreciate that information. I changed my drive and ram selection selection to those.
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Re: My New Build For Aces High- Feedback Desired
« Reply #20 on: March 02, 2009, 10:56:02 PM »
I usually just go with on-board sound, my hearing is poor and with the wife and the new baby I have to wear a head-set all the time anyway, so money for a nice sound card is just wasted. I have two SATA optical drives selected, but as they had no impact on AH I just didn't list them.

New baby! Congrats!

Sound card robs cycles the cpu uses. You will possibly get freezes during game play. Just get one with a head set attachment. Just my thoughts.

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Re: My New Build For Aces High- Feedback Desired
« Reply #21 on: March 04, 2009, 02:01:16 PM »
Zazen, how's that build going? I need to live vicariously through you.  :rofl :rofl :rofl

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Re: My New Build For Aces High- Feedback Desired
« Reply #22 on: March 04, 2009, 06:11:16 PM »
Zazen, how's that build going? I need to live vicariously through you.  :rofl :rofl :rofl
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« Reply #23 on: March 05, 2009, 04:28:40 PM »
I've been Playing with the build based on the excellent feedback you guys gave me. This is where I am at now. This time I just cut n' pasted from my Newegg cart worksheet.


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Re: My New Build For Aces High- Feedback Desired
« Reply #24 on: March 05, 2009, 05:52:05 PM »
Still don't see a sound card. Did I miss it?

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« Reply #25 on: March 05, 2009, 08:13:44 PM »
$400 power supply?  Wow.

If you're spending that kind of coin, get a bluray player.  Don't go OEM or you'll play hell trying to get playback to work right...  Go for a retail package with decent software and support.

For that matter, get vista ultimate instead of premium.  Premium leaves out some stuff that would be nice to have I think...  That's one reason I still haven't bought vista, their feature list forces me to get ultimate and it's expensive.  But I didn't get a $400 PSU either ;)

You won't find it at newegg, but you will want the thermalright ultra extreme "TRUE" heatsink for your cpu.  Again it's not the cheapest but it's the best I've seen in dozens of reviews and it's only about $20 more than lesser heatsinks.
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Re: My New Build For Aces High- Feedback Desired
« Reply #26 on: March 06, 2009, 12:00:11 AM »
I didn't look but make sure that monitor has a 5 ms or lower response rate otherwise you'll probably get ghosting.
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Re: My New Build For Aces High- Feedback Desired
« Reply #27 on: March 06, 2009, 02:00:19 AM »
$400 power supply?  Wow.

If you're spending that kind of coin, get a bluray player.  Don't go OEM or you'll play hell trying to get playback to work right...  Go for a retail package with decent software and support.

For that matter, get vista ultimate instead of premium.  Premium leaves out some stuff that would be nice to have I think...  That's one reason I still haven't bought vista, their feature list forces me to get ultimate and it's expensive.  But I didn't get a $400 PSU either ;)

You won't find it at newegg, but you will want the thermalright ultra extreme "TRUE" heatsink for your cpu.  Again it's not the cheapest but it's the best I've seen in dozens of reviews and it's only about $20 more than lesser heatsinks.


Actually ultimate doesn't bring anything on the table that he should pay the difference for. The ultimate 'extras' are a well known joke (there are almost none) so the only thing he would gain is support for enterprise networking. Which I highly doubt he'll need at home unless he's a masochist.
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Re: My New Build For Aces High- Feedback Desired
« Reply #28 on: March 06, 2009, 02:17:51 AM »
Zazen, I would stay away from a modular PS. That's on a personal level and I would still go with the PC Power and Cooling power supply. I believe a quad will do the job with plenty left over.

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« Reply #29 on: March 06, 2009, 06:36:27 AM »
Actually ultimate doesn't bring anything on the table that he should pay the difference for. The ultimate 'extras' are a well known joke (there are almost none) so the only thing he would gain is support for enterprise networking. Which I highly doubt he'll need at home unless he's a masochist.

I think there was a system backup utility and some other items that are nice to have.  The "ultimate extras" are a joke yes, but the premium version leaves out some stuff that the business version has, that I personally would like to have if I was switching to Vista.

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