Messerschmitt Bf 109k-4...

[RumbleB]

not my K4 

 

[Scotch]

the k-4  is actually a lil easy mode....for stall fighters..

says the uber flap hog dweeb

[AWwrgwy]

wrongway

[Anaxogoras]

In Messerschmitt Bf 109 F, G & K Series, by Prien and Rodeike, the chapter on the K-4 mentions that some were delivered with an MG 151/20 hub cannon.

Wrongway, wikipedia articles are as accurate as their citations.  Good citations make for good articles, and the 109 article seems to set a high standard.  Check out the talk page and you can see the other users lay the smack down on "kurtfurst."

[JunkyII]

Oh, P.S. the Ki-84's climb rate is nothing compared to the 109s' climb rates.

Ki-84 barely touches 4000fpm at 5k and drops sharply after that. 109K-4 and G-14 almost touch 5000fpm up to 5k alt, and above that gradually drop off.

Plus the Ki has a huuuuuuge mid-alt power drop that I dislike. Puts it at a disadvantage when fighting planes higher up.

i got a video that shows Ki climb in a 1v1 vs a K4 but Im not sure how to post it can i email you it and post it to show what im trying to talk about, I dont know if its inaccruately built but the ki climbs with k4s in 1v1s below 10k, send me pm if you can post this for me

[Chalenge]

A well flown k4 can be a problem but telling a noob to try one is setting him up for failure. 

[JunkyII]

A well flown k4 can be a problem but telling a noob to try one is setting him up for failure. 

Unless he BNZ in it then he setting him self up for a dramatic downfall, he would probably be awesome in it for about 2 weeks then suddenly hes trying to aviod people doing the same thing to him and hes getting waxed left and right

[SkyRock]

says the uber flap hog dweeb, that owns in K-4's and american iron as well!

yes.......if that's ok with you.....I will answer yes to the question, "do you say that?".








 

[BillyD]

             Love this bird as she is..... a dirty dirty ruthless killer 

[Creton]

I learned that everyone loves a spud

[SunBat]

But on the other hand half of the mystique and challenge of flying the k4 is the gun package. That one reason is why most people give it up as a regular ride.

QFT.  The gun package is the beauty of this plane and is what keeps it from becoming just another overused pick machine like the Spit16 and N1K - well that and to a lesser degree the less than average views that most new comers to the 109 don't like compared to the Pony, the Spits, N1K, and LaLa.  It is perfect the way it is, I admit it would be fun to have the other gun package but I'm afraid it would ruin the reputation of the plane in game and just add another new dimension of horde/pick torture to the game. 

[Kazaa]

pfffft i got 4 hispano, 4 browning, two merlins and a huge f-off windscreen that disagree with you.

I loled, don't forget they are all centre mounted for additional LAZERZ BEAMZ effect!

[jam934]

Jager nice info sir love that beast of a plane just not that much ammo me not so good with the aim.

[AWwrgwy]

In Messerschmitt Bf 109 F, G & K Series, by Prien and Rodeike, the chapter on the K-4 mentions that some were delivered with an MG 151/20 hub cannon.

Wrongway, wikipedia articles are as accurate as their citations.  Good citations make for good articles, and the 109 article seems to set a high standard.  Check out the talk page and you can see the other users lay the smack down on "kurtfurst."

Wiki is a good place to start but I don't know about putting much stock in much of it without more research.  Primary source, don't think so.


Besides, it's a nice picture.

wrongway

[Saurdaukar]

<-- Finds himself taking up a G14 with a 30mm rather than a K4, lately.