mosquito fans

[Karnak]

I would really like to know if we have any hope of the dampers being taken out of the flight model or are we just beating a dead horse?

[bozon]

Even a dead horse will move a little if you beat it hard enough. We only need to move it an inch.

[Rich46yo]

Eventually its going to get remodeled. Maybe then.

The Mosquito Mk VI was powered by two Rolls-Royce Merlin engines, first the 1250 hp Merlin XXI and then the 1650 hp Merlin XXV. It's maximum speed was 380 mph at 13,000 feet fully loaded. It could do over 400 easily without bombs. It's range was 1205 miles, 1705 with extra fuel tanks. The Mk VI fighter/bomber was the most numerous version made. The Mosquito was the fastest operational aircraft of the 2nd World War until mid-1944. The Mk VI was armed with the standard 4+4 in the nose, with an additional bomb load of 2 250 lb bombs in the rear of the bomb-bay and two more on pylons on the wings, in-board of the engines. It first flew in 1943.

The upgraded Night Fighter Mk XXX was powered by the 1710 hp Rolls-Royce Merlin 76 engines giving it a maximum speed of 416 mph and a range of 1159 miles. It had the standard 4+4 armament in the nose. It first flew in 1944

http://www.rodanair.ca/mosq.html

Just an example. The web is full of reports on the speed of the MK-Vls with the Merlin 25s. The general number most often qouted is 380 mph at around 13,000'.

[Scherf]

I knew I'd seen the "speed reduction with drop tanks on = 5 mph" data somewhere. Found it on Mike Williams most excellent site:

http://www.wwiiaircraftperformance.org



Sharp & Bowyer give a 5 mph loss for the wing bomb carriers, which needs to be taken into account when looking at the speed quoted in the Ministry of Aircraft Production data card for the Merlin 25 Mosquito, which I've posted on the AHwiki.

Can provide page number reference for the Sharp & Bowyer quote at some point.

I'll use this info and put together a "composite curve" based on the speed gain from dropping tanks and from using the stub exhausts.

As for the dead horse, heheheheh, I've used the phrase meself, but I imagine the AH folks have had other priorities for the past little while, also for the immediate future too.

[bozon]

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Just an example. The web is full of reports on the speed of the MK-Vls with the Merlin 25s. The general number most often qouted is 380 mph at around 13,000'.

Yes, but also note that it says 380 mph at 13,000 feet fully loaded. This means bombs too.

[Karnak]

Yes, but also note that it says 380 mph at 13,000 feet fully loaded. This means bombs too.

That commonly quoted number also doesn't specify dampers or ejector stacks.

[Rich46yo]

There really wasnt any comparable airplane, built by anyone, to the Mossie in WW-2. That in itself is a clear statement of its superiority. I remember once reading that the original test Mossie was clocked at 392 mph during a flight test in 1940. Think about that? "In 1940".

Hap Arnold was mad for it but the rest of the Yank air corp command thought it wouldnt hold up cause it was made of wood. Not only could the Mossie deliver the cookie but it also tested out able to carry insane weights. They once flew it successfully while it was weighed down with 8 or 10k I dont remember which.

In actual combat the real life Mossie was far more capable then what we have modeled in AH. It carried a bigger bombload, a more versatile load, and did so faster. While I love the one we have in the game let us hope when its remodeled it will also be updated.

[Plazus]

There really wasnt any comparable airplane, built by anyone, to the Mossie in WW-2. That in itself is a clear statement of its superiority. I remember once reading that the original test Mossie was clocked at 392 mph during a flight test in 1940. Think about that? "In 1940".

Hap Arnold was mad for it but the rest of the Yank air corp command thought it wouldnt hold up cause it was made of wood. Not only could the Mossie deliver the cookie but it also tested out able to carry insane weights. They once flew it successfully while it was weighed down with 8 or 10k I dont remember which.

In actual combat the real life Mossie was far more capable then what we have modeled in AH. It carried a bigger bombload, a more versatile load, and did so faster. While I love the one we have in the game let us hope when its remodeled it will also be updated.

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I salute to that! Two engines are ALWAYS better than one! 

[Scherf]

Meh - anyone know how to convince Excel to put altitude as the left-hand axis and speed as the bottom axis, a la AH speed charts? Can't seem to get there using the default buttons.

[moot]

Did you try changing the source cells' orientation?

[Scherf]

yup, tried arranging speed by alt in both rows and columns.

Must be easy, when you know how.

[moot]

I can't remember how I'd gotten around that. I'll let you know if I do.  It is a PITA.

[Scherf]

Cheers.

[Angus]

Meh - anyone know how to convince Excel to put altitude as the left-hand axis and speed as the bottom axis, a la AH speed charts? Can't seem to get there using the default buttons.

I ended up using Microsoft paint for making the graphs, since excel couldn't cope with the somewhat random data of speeds at alt.
I did write an application in (cough) Spectrum-basic for the calculation of speed at alt between alt-bands as in a graph but ended up with MS paint.
Drop me an email and I'll mail back to you the format I used.
Cheers

[Scherf]

Thanks Angus.

I may have tracked down a way to do it, but can't check until Dell's minions bring me a new power converter...

Will post later.