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Offline WWhiskey

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gv sights
« on: March 05, 2009, 01:21:02 PM »
any chance that someone has or would make me some sights,such as the tiger main gun sight?
i would like to use that sight in another gv, so as to get a better spread out range marker.
when i am in the tiger, my range shot will show 400 meter at 400 meter target,
 the Sherman shows the same target at 800/ 1000 out,
 my idea is to replace the gun sight in the Sherman with the one from the tiger, i know they look the same , but i think the tiger one is larger in size and therefore gives a better, sight picture, and if  nothing else,this will give me some commonality!
 
« Last Edit: March 05, 2009, 01:22:59 PM by WWhiskey »
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Re: gv sights
« Reply #1 on: March 05, 2009, 09:51:17 PM »
Heya Whiskey,

The GV gunsights (main guns) are only on the server side of the game.  There are no .bmp's for a skinner to manipulate like we do for the aircraft.  Sorry bud.  :(

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Re: gv sights
« Reply #2 on: March 05, 2009, 10:13:40 PM »
It's not server side. It's a hard coded shape, the game doesn't look for any file to replace those sights with.  And the GV sights are made to match each gun/round's ballistics.  If you want to get some flexibility out of them, push your head position up/down, and switch to F8 pan mode.  You'll be able to zoom into the part of the sight where your rounds are landing, and range further out.
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Re: gv sights
« Reply #3 on: March 06, 2009, 12:32:33 AM »
this is the problem
same shot same distance
 two different tanks
 first is the Sherman
 second is the tiger
distance is 400 or so
 yet Sherman is crop ed in its gun sight
 
 
 both are maxed out
 notice that in the Sherman 3200 is vi sable yet not hitable
 the tiger has only 1600 visibly without f-8 and down keys for range
 every trick and or zoom feature i know does not help the Sherman
 if i am missing something i don't know what it is!
 at that range they should be the same
also for the tiger to range at long shots, say 3500 or more you must use f-8 to move down the gun ,
 the Sherman does not need that , all gun distance is in the first sight without f-8 movement yet it will not hit at the same distance,
so the mouse pointer is the only way to get long range,
 the range finder should be the same no matter how far the gun will shoot, before the last update the range finder was the same for all tanks,
 after that the Sherman was porked,
 i can mark my screen to replace the Sherman gunsight shortfall,
 but i use both of my puters for other things than aces high
i only want for the rangefinders in all tanks to be the same!
 i will post more pics as needed to show the diff. in shortfalls
 i would love to drive the sherman, the tiger costs to much considering that it cannot stand up too the sherman any better than it does!!!
 hope the panther is in the next update, maybe then things will be more equal!!
« Last Edit: March 06, 2009, 12:36:31 AM by WWhiskey »
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Re: gv sights
« Reply #4 on: March 06, 2009, 12:55:49 AM »
here are two more shots,
 farther out but at the same distance one from the other

 
tiger gets the kill at 600
 Sherman has to elevate to 1200 for the same kill
 yet still close enough for the velocity to not play a difference,
 and if i am not mistaken the speed of the Sherman round is faster,,
 ( might be wrong) but i doubt it
and even if the round is slower or faster the range finder should look the same,
 but it does not!!
Sherman round is more effective at this range yet needs more elevation?? :noid :noid :noid
 if i am wrong please tell me!!
 if not please fix!!
 all due respect    thanks   Jeff

« Last Edit: March 06, 2009, 12:58:38 AM by WWhiskey »
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Re: gv sights
« Reply #5 on: March 06, 2009, 03:51:19 AM »
Whiskey I don't understand what you mean.   The tiger and sherman rounds have different ballistics.  Their sights are tailor made for their respective ballistics. That means the standard 3.2K sight is shrunk to match the M4's flat ballistics and longest for the mediocre Tiger HE ballistics. There's nothing amiss there.  Just move your head up with PageUp to bring the sight out of the dark keyhole area if necessary (e.g. on the tiger HE rounds). Then pan down in F8 mode with the view hat or numpad.
You don't need the mouse cursor for any of this.
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Re: gv sights
« Reply #6 on: March 06, 2009, 08:34:13 AM »
Whiskey I don't understand what you mean.   The tiger and sherman rounds have different ballistics.  Their sights are tailor made for their respective ballistics. That means the standard 3.2K sight is shrunk to match the M4's flat ballistics and longest for the mediocre Tiger HE ballistics. There's nothing amiss there.  Just move your head up with PageUp to bring the sight out of the dark keyhole area if necessary (e.g. on the tiger HE rounds). Then pan down in F8 mode with the view hat or numpad.
You don't need the mouse cursor for any of this.

 if the sherman round has a flater trajectory, then why  would it take more elevation to hit a target only 600 yards away?
 and the sight in the sherman is not accurate, no matter what the ballistics of the round, the distance to target, is always the same!
the lines on the screen should read 600 yard at a target impact of 600, the lines on the screen read 1000 yards in the sherman but only 600 on the tiger,
if the sherman round is faster, then the fall of the round would be less or flater, this in turn would make the range finder larger, not smaller, because the gun would be  more acurate, at longer distances.
now go and fire the sherman at a target 3000 yard away, read the range finder and see if it says 3000 yards, then do the same with a tiger.
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Re: gv sights
« Reply #7 on: March 06, 2009, 08:42:44 AM »
Why are you not zoomed in consistently?  I just did this off line with the Firefly, T34/76, Panzer, Tiger, and M-8.  From the same spot, zoomed all the way in, it was dead on for all, AP, HVAC, or HE.  Even Smoke in the Panzer.

I can post screen shots also, if you like.  I used a AA gun for reference, lining up the range line on the top of the gun shield.  Same range line for all tanks and hit the same place on the turret each time.

Maybe it's just you?


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Re: gv sights
« Reply #8 on: March 06, 2009, 09:01:29 AM »
Why are you not zoomed in consistently?  I just did this off line with the Firefly, T34/76, Panzer, Tiger, and M-8.  From the same spot, zoomed all the way in, it was dead on for all, AP, HVAC, or HE.  Even Smoke in the Panzer.

I can post screen shots also, if you like.  I used a AA gun for reference, lining up the range line on the top of the gun shield.  Same range line for all tanks and hit the same place on the turret each time.

Maybe it's just you?


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that's what i am trying to figure out, the tiger is all the way zoomed in, but the Sherman will not go any closer than what the pic shows, i have been around a long time and don't think i missed any steps to get zoomed in as far as possible, obviously since i have the tiger set right
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Re: gv sights
« Reply #9 on: March 06, 2009, 11:01:14 AM »
kilz addressed this problem back some time ago, but i don't think he got an answer, maybe we can get this moved to help forum,
if your gun is zooming in all the way "AWwrgwy" then it is me, but i have one system with xp and another with vista and both are the same, the Sherman will not zoom any more than the picture shows, yet all my other tanks zoom in correctly
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Re: gv sights
« Reply #10 on: March 06, 2009, 11:50:40 AM »
I have a harder time making range shots with a tiger or panzer, you have to zoom out to get same veiw as sherman, I wish all the sites were the same.

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Re: gv sights
« Reply #11 on: March 06, 2009, 12:10:58 PM »
I have a harder time making range shots with a tiger or panzer, you have to zoom out to get same veiw as sherman, I wish all the sites were the same.
all you have to do is press f-8 then use the numbers pad 2 or 8 to scroll up and down the sight
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Re: gv sights
« Reply #12 on: March 06, 2009, 04:51:29 PM »
Whiskey reset your head positions for all tanks.  That's the only way to be sure you're on the same page as everyone to start with.
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Re: gv sights
« Reply #13 on: March 06, 2009, 04:54:06 PM »
ok done! still the same on my computer, will check the store machine in 15 minutes

all my sights have been recycled yet the sherman will still not zoom in as far as all the other tanks,
 have had this problem since a month or two after the sherman was new, was a fix it patch of some sort i think.
maybe  Skuzzy will move this to the help forums
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Re: gv sights
« Reply #14 on: March 06, 2009, 06:47:47 PM »
The magnification is the same for all tank turrets.  Max. magnification being the same, and ballistics being different, at maximum zoom the sherman's sight will consequently appear smaller than e.g. the Tiger's HE gunsight.  If you need more precision at longer ranges, you can pan down to see the rounds land at max. zoom using F8. With the Tiger's HE or the LVT4, the lowest ranges of the gunsight are burried in the optics' edge. You can get around that by raising your head position, or moving it back and forth, then panning down.  That's all you can do..
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