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Re: "SEXTING" PLEASE READ PARENTS
« Reply #120 on: March 15, 2009, 11:43:49 AM »
touche! 

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Re: "SEXTING" PLEASE READ PARENTS
« Reply #121 on: March 15, 2009, 11:48:17 AM »
If I teach my daughter how to properly use a firearm, the pregnancy point becomes moot.    :D
She doesn't need to be taught that if you follow her every step..
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« Reply #122 on: March 15, 2009, 11:52:07 AM »
I guess it's too late since she already knows   :)
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« Reply #123 on: March 15, 2009, 01:08:45 PM »
My kid's 30....so I don't care what he does.

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« Reply #124 on: March 16, 2009, 11:11:36 PM »
Lol I was sure this revelation would come next. So either youre Amish or you've totally gimped your child to live in the early 90's. Doesn't she get ridiculed over this? I'm sure 99% of her friends have their own camera phones, personal computers, handheld devices etc.

Oh, and privacy..

I for one feel much better knowing my kid has his phone when he goes out so he can call for help if something happens.

I am not Amish. She doesn't use the land line to call friends so why would I pay for the added expense of a cell phone?  We have 2 computers in this home and that's what we can afford. If YOU think she needs her own private computer, then you buy it. I will gladly PM you shipping information.
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« Reply #125 on: March 16, 2009, 11:14:40 PM »

It is not my responsibility to make sure that my kids are popular.  I'm not their friend.  I am their parent.  We will have plenty of time to be friends when they are all grown up, and have their own families.

The only way I am going to "gimp" my kids is to buy for, or let them do, whatever they want.  If we are going to keep up the premise of it helping them grow up in the real world, then nothing will work better than the above.  In fact, it will prepare them better than me just opening my wallet at their every whim, because nothing in life is free.  The faster they learn this concept, the better prepared they will be.

I feel just as safe that I have an 800 number for my business that my kids can call from anywhere, anytime.  It wont get lost or stolen, and the batteries will never need a charge.

You want a phone? Get a job.  You want a car?  Same answer.  You want privacy?  Prove to me that you are mature enough to handle the responsibility.

Well said.  :)

My daughter asked for a cell phone, I told her to get a job to pay for it. And if she actually used the land line, she might have a reason to have a cell phone. Right now the only reason for her to have a cell phone is so she can be like the other kids. Which is no reason at all.
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« Reply #126 on: March 16, 2009, 11:22:15 PM »
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I for one feel much better knowing my kid has his phone when he goes out so he can call for help if something happens.

My daughter will be in her schools marching band this next fall. Practice starts this summer. She will be riding her bicycle to/from practice and my wife and I are talking about getting a cell phone for her to carry with her to band practice. It will not be her phone however, it will be ours and she will be entrusted with its care several times per week if we go this route. (It's looking like we will.)
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« Reply #127 on: March 17, 2009, 01:22:00 AM »
I am not Amish. She doesn't use the land line to call friends so why would I pay for the added expense of a cell phone?  We have 2 computers in this home and that's what we can afford. If YOU think she needs her own private computer, then you buy it. I will gladly PM you shipping information.

When I was her age I already had earned for my second computer and mind you computers costed a lot in the late 80's. And she already has a computer so this is not an issue, the lack of privacy is. Essentially you're depriving her of her basic human right with your protectiveness. Road to hell is paved with good intentions I guess..

And the cell phone issue, aren't you worried sending her out to the world with no means to call for help? What if she goes out jogging and strains her knee bad enough to not walk in the middle of the forest? What if she goes out driving with a friend and they run out of gas or get a breakdown in middle of nowhere?

I feel a heck of a lot more confident sending my kid out to friends if he's carrying his cell phone. In fact I demand him to keep it with him every time he leaves home.
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« Reply #128 on: March 17, 2009, 01:57:53 AM »
"What if she goes out driving with a friend and they run out of gas or get a breakdown in middle of nowhere?"

see...when i'm in the middle of nowhere, i'm in the middle of nowhere. there's no cell coverage. if i'm where there's cell coverage, the road is busy enough that eventually someone will stop and give me a hand.

"What if she goes out jogging and strains her knee bad enough to not walk in the middle of the forest? "

then she figures something out hobbles home, lord knows i've had to do that a couple times.

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« Reply #129 on: March 17, 2009, 02:43:29 AM »
^ I'm sure that there are other examples here where having a phone would be advantageous.

If I had a child I'd be with MrRipley on the phone issue. They wouldn't be leaving the house without it.

Not only that, they'd be using it to keep me posted at all times.

Should they not answer it when I called them there would be hell to pay.
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« Reply #130 on: March 17, 2009, 05:24:12 AM »
While I am not as harshly adamant as elfie on this particular subject, I do however agree that there is no need for a child (non-driving age) to have a cell phone. My wife and I give my daughter our cell phone to take with her when she goes to her friends house alone. She then can call the house phone as often as she needs. I am 100% with the idea that she can have a cell phone when she can earn the money herself to pay for it.

I do agree with others here that she does and is going to need a way to call for help. Keep in mind things are not as safe as they used to be. I would not want my daughter going up to knock on someone's door to ask for help anymore unless I knew them. Which is what we used to have to do when I was growing up. There are some real crazies out there and they are much more frequent than they used to be.

As far as the privacy thing goes, the only privacy a 14 year old needs and has a right to is to be able to get herself dressed behind closed doors. Pretty much everything else is open for inspection. A 14 year old is still pretty naive and yes does need protecting. As far as I am concerned that "right" is not given to you until you at least reach the age of 17 or when I feel that they are ready to take on the responsibility for themselves.

As someone else here stated I think, every situation is different, every child is different and every set of circumstances is different. The thing is to do what you think is best for your particular situation and what you think is in the best interest of your children and it sounds as though with children here are doing just that.
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Re: "SEXTING" PLEASE READ PARENTS
« Reply #131 on: March 17, 2009, 07:48:02 AM »
For now, the keylogger is still necessary. My family has just started communicating via Facebook recently and my wife and I are thinking about allowing her a Facebook account soon and let her start off with people we all trust.
Over half of non reported sexual contact on minor children is from friends and family members that the "parents" trust.  I have 5 kids total, 3 older boys out of the house and a 9 year old girl and 11 year old boy.  All of our kids were not monitored nor do we plan on monitoring then so to speak.  We believe in allowing our children experience life both good and bad sides.  As a parent, we all want and hope for the best for our kids, but keeping them sheltered from from what actually out there in the real world creates a "sheltered" naive person.  The term "Street Smarts" comes one way... experience, seeing and learning from your experiences in life.  IMHO overprotecting your child when young does not allow them to learn to make decisions on their own, be them good or bad.  we all make mistakes and hopefully learn from them.  If not we (my wife and I)  feel they will look for someone to tell them its ok rather then make a decision on their own (hopefully the right one).  Our kids have full access to the internet and have their own email accounts.  No Facebook or MySpace accounts, not that we said no, they have not requested if they can have one yet.  Cell phones are for when they hit middle school (next year for our youngest son). 

My youngest son came to me last night asking making a few statements.  He has always been in the "popular crowd" until the past few months, he has shied away from some of his friends on his own, reason being is that one of the other kids "popular crowd" has been using what he called foul language.  He said dad most everyone uses foul language sometime but "kids name" uses the "F" word twice in almost every sentence.  I asked about several of his friends and he said yea they flock around "kids name" and I don't want to have to hear that.  Point I am trying to make here is that Sam has learned whats right and whats wrong and had made both good and bad decisions in his short life, but they were his decisions, some with our glee some with our disappointment (and his loss of WII, Bike, having friends over for a few days etc) he has learned whats right and whats not with our guidance, reassurance and trust not suspicion and distrust.

As parents we all have to do what we feel is right for raising our children, we feel our kids are on the right path with our guidance and trust in them to make the right decisions and when they are at odds with something they know without recourse we can be spoke to about anything.

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Re: "SEXTING" PLEASE READ PARENTS
« Reply #132 on: March 17, 2009, 08:40:26 AM »
Seems to me that 3/4 of the world's population wouldn't know whether to take a crap or go blind if cell phone service became non-existent.

Are some folks THAT hamstrung by technology, that they couldn't survive without it?

I take one day/week (usually Sunday) and shut them damn thing off. 

How quickly we forget what it was like to be young. 

I never had a cell phone  till I was almost 23.
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« Reply #133 on: March 17, 2009, 08:52:35 AM »

I never had a cell phone  till I was almost 23.

that is because they were not economical until then messa. you old man.  :D

I never had a cell phone until I was 28 which was about 7 years ago. well that is not 100% accurate I had a cellular phone when I was 20 but it was back when you had to have it installed in your car or you had to carry that car battery around with you in the bag. Not very practical and I ony had it a few months, too expensive.


as far as the Amish comments though, I do think if some spent more time instilling more Amish values and morals into their children things would be a little different.

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« Reply #134 on: March 17, 2009, 09:00:53 AM »
I guess the point is that WE all survived.  Technology is great, but it will never replace common sense.

and BTW.....

That was a BAG phone, not a cell phone  ;)
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