BSG Series finale

[pipz]

I could not decifer most of the clues of where they were going with it (dissapointingly so, a majority of shows it's painfully obvious to me what the details of the story will end up being), and I was impressed with how they brought all the clues together at the end in such a limited amout of time.

I think this is what made the show interesting.For once it was hard to see where they were taking the story.One of the scenes "one of many" that suprised me was when that girl D went into the locker room all happy with a big smile only to pull a gun from her locker and shoot herself.I should have relaized something was up for a character to be that happy on BSG <G>


Pipz

[WilldCrd]

Well, after giving it some thought, if you recall the original series, the beginning credits had the narrator saying something like "some believe, life here, began out there".
So with that in mind the ending was atleast in part a homage to TOS BSG.
I also liked how when the Galactica and the rest of the fleet were heading into the sun they played the original theme (would have been better if it was the more dramatic version, like a  to the old girl).
I dunno why but when ships of my favorite shows (the Enterprise or the Galactica) are off to be destroyed, I get a lil misty eyed  . The characters can die off, suffer greatly...no biggy but the ships they get me a lil choked up.

One thing tho, Where did lampkins dog come from? I know he had a cat (deceased) but, hwo the frak did he get a doggy? Somebody just "gave" him one?

[pipz]

I kinda know what ya mean about the ships.I think it is pretty obvious Admiral Adama and others felt the same way <G> Its almost like the ships are a character themselves.It was a shame to see Galactica pull that last jump and then break its back.

Apollo gave Lampkin the dog after someone had killed his cat.


Pipz

[WilldCrd]

I didn't like the path they chose at the end.  It's like they gave up.  As long as we're working with an alternate history, why throw it all away?  I know that they had a moral to the story in the last 60 seconds of the show, but they could have figured out some other way to express that moral without what I consider to be a really dumb premise.  Read on for why...

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It's all naturist nonsense...  90% or more of them would have died the first winter after throwing away the trappings of civilization in the name of a "fresh start", the "choices" they made would be nearly universally fatal within just a few weeks (I'm going to live alone on an island where there are no people... nonsense, he'd be dead in a week or two, tops), and their intentions would have meant absolutely nothing when they realized they would have to use their bare hands and spend their entire waking days just looking for food.  Even the savages with their spears could have found them and taken them down the first time things got tough.

In short, the ending was nonsense, just a slow painful way to suicide, taking thousands of "innocents" (the civilians who probably had no choice in the matter) with them.  In reality, the civilians would have fought those retard "leaders" who made that decision, and fought harder than they fought the cylons, because the leadership essentially killed everyone in a rather horrible way after working so hard to save their lives.  There is no way in hell you could take people with their level of knowledge and culture, dump them into a raw natural environment, and expect a mere fraction to live past the first year.  And the thousands who died would die by starvation, illness, or from otherwise "simple" injuries that would have to go untreated because they drove sick bay into the sun.

Dumb ending.  The moral in the last 60 seconds probably tied up the whole show pretty well IMHO, but how it went down was idiocy, a mass murder/suicide plot.

I hear what your saying but consider this: Maybe some of the people didnt want a clean slate and give up all their technology. Maybe all of them were on one ship, found a nice temperate island, built a beautiful city using their technology. Maybe name it in the theme of the colonies something like.....hmm i dunno maybe Atlantis?
unfortunately they all succumb to a natural disaster and it is all lost  .

Hmm might be a good premise for a spin off   

[Murdr]

...hmm i dunno maybe Atlantis?

I was thinking of Atlantis during the 'observing the natives' scene.

[MORAY37]

Anyone else notice the raptor assault from the port hangar pod?  I had to laugh.  This Battlestar has been floating around for 7+ years, in a constant state of combat... and they never took down the museum/ glass enclosure from the port hangar?Although, in past episodes they do show Vipers and Raptors recovering from missions into both hangar pods.....  As well, didn't a single raptor jumping from just outside Gallactica (Boomer stealing Hera) almost rip it apart from spacial distortion, but 5 of them jumping from inside...did nothing?   

All in all, interesting ending, though implausible. Of course, the whole premise of the show was implausible.  I had always wished they got back to the first season's terse writing.  "33" was brilliant in it's simplicity.  There was obviously a shift to make the series more operatic.

[Fulmar]

Another fine review by the avid fan, Tango.

Anyways, I thought the first half was excellent and the mop up gets a pretty good.  Some may say a little corny and were probably turned off by the tears, but thats life.  They fought and died for 4 seasons, I think it was time to cry a little.  I think the ending paid homage to the original well.

Throughout the whole series, I absolutely loved the character of Baltar.  Though it did dim for me when he had the whole cult thing, overall he had the best storyline throughout the series.  And I'm glad for his redemption. and the whole Caprica six thing.

I cheered pretty good when Galen killed Tory.  That whole scene right there with the salvation and resurrection so close to the end and then chaos, excellent.

I loved how they went back and played some of the soundtracks from Season 1.  I'd recommend people to buy the OST to the show's seasons, there is some excellent music on there.  And if you're interested, the orchestral music played during the last half were based off of Season 1's tracks 24. Passacaglia and 27. The Shape of things to come.  Some of the best tracks I've ever heard in TV of film TBO.

Only downsides to it were: I did think more characters would die in the battle.  I did feel a little cheated that Kara just vanished, but it leads it open to interpretation (though it was very fitting with Lee at the end).  I wasn't totally sold on the clean slate when Lampkin asked about it and Adama gave it a one sentence answer.  I would have preferred a better speech to sway for the argument, rather than be brushed off.  I also think it would have been MUCH more dramatic to see Helo die as so Sharon can go after Harah.  I was disappointed to see him at the end.  Not real shocker of the ending.  I still think the ending to the Sopranos was by far one of my most teasured.

I will deeply miss the show.  I hope the spinoffs do justice.  It was kind of by chance that I picked up on this show 5 years ago.  I was bored on a day off and nothing on TV.  I can recall seeing a promo for BSG on sci-fi the other day and I decided I'd download one of the episodes.  The rest of that Saturday and Sunday I became incredibly enthralled by watching the entire first season and instantly became my favorite TV sci-fi show.  For me (at least), it can stand near my religious upbringing of Star Wars.

[WilldCrd]

Anyone else notice the raptor assault from the port hangar pod?  I had to laugh.  This Battlestar has been floating around for 7+ years, in a constant state of combat... and they never took down the museum/ glass enclosure from the port hangar?Although, in past episodes they do show Vipers and Raptors recovering from missions into both hangar pods.....  As well, didn't a single raptor jumping from just outside Gallactica (Boomer stealing Hera) almost rip it apart from spacial distortion, but 5 of them jumping from inside...did nothing?   

All in all, interesting ending, though implausible. Of course, the whole premise of the show was implausible.  I had always wished they got back to the first season's terse writing.  "33" was brilliant in it's simplicity.  There was obviously a shift to make the series more operatic.

The front of the port flight pod was shown in one of the previous episodes. I agree its odd how it could have survived AND then there is the 5 raptors jumping BUT, its a sci-fi show. There is gonna be irregularities.

I duno why you think its a implausible ending. Are you talking about the "naturalist" thing like eagle was? If so then I disagree <as I do with eagle>
In the show they never said exactly what they were taking or considered "essentials". Adama had a whole raptor! (imagine some archealogists suprise upon digging THAT thing up  )
Anywho, the majority of the people I would think stayed together. we only saw Adama and Tyrol go off by themselves. It would have been tough but they landed in temperate zones. and tho they broke off into groups on different continents I think they could have made it. Even if it was 5 groups of about 7500 ppl they could have still made it. The show didnt really dwell on how or what supply's they took so we really dont know.

[Fulmar]

Even if it was 5 groups of about 7500 ppl they could have still made it. The show didnt really dwell on how or what supply's they took so we really dont know.

I agree.  Just because I didn't see it all on the TV screen, doesn't mean  they couldn't bring it along.  I don't enjoy being handed word for word.  Without leaving room for at least some interpretation, you've taken the whole point away from discussing the show.

[Fulmar]

Also, some good outtakes on http://www.scifi.com/battlestar/

[Tango]

Another fine review by the avid fan, Tango.

I don't like to have a hollywood type preaching at me how mankind is destroying itself, especially when it comes to progress in technology. I watch TV and movies to be entertained. If I want to learn about issues that we are facing in real life I will read a book or look for documentary shows about the subject. Watching a Science Fiction show is just that, FICTION. In this case bad fiction.

[grizz441]

I loved it.  While there were some loose ends, most importantly I liked the fates of the characters and the old bucket.

[Murdr]

I don't like to have a hollywood type preaching at me how mankind is destroying itself, especially when it comes to progress in technology. I watch TV and movies to be entertained. If I want to learn about issues that we are facing in real life I will read a book or look for documentary shows about the subject. Watching a Science Fiction show is just that, FICTION. In this case bad fiction.

Nice tin foil hat you have there.

Terminator movies
The Matrix movies
2001 A Space Odyssey
I robot
Just a few examples of the very common sci-fi theme of artificial intelligence deciding to turn on their creators.  Lignten up Francis

[Tango]

Except that those movies didn't go into current political issues of the day trying to teach a moral issue. An example, prisoner torture. I turned off that episode because it was making a slap at the guys defending our troops and the country.

Also you KNOW what those movies are about from the advertisements. There is a difference between being entertained and preached at.

[Murdr]

Also you KNOW what those movies are about from the advertisements.

Eww yea, KFC is right up there with Greenpeace and the Sierra Club 

Except that those movies didn't go into current political issues of the day trying to teach a moral issue. An example, prisoner torture. I turned off that episode because it was making a slap at the guys defending our troops and the country.

Which one?  Where Thrace beats the crap out of, and nearly drowns a Leobin in a bowl of water, and eventually the president has him flushed out an airlock?  Where the Pegasus officer attempts to rape an 8 prisoner and Galen and Helo accidently kill him?  Where the Pegasus crew tortures and rapes the 6 that seduced Cain, and she evetually escapes and murders Cain?

I give the whine 5 noids out of 5    Watch out for the black helocopters.