La-7's armament

[Cajunn]

I was just wondering, I think that the load out on the La-7 is not accurate:


Armament: Three 20 mm Beresin B-20 (faster firing) ShVak cannon with 200 rounds per gun plus two 220 lbs (100 kg) bombs. Underwing racks could accept up to six RS-82 rockets.

This is where I got my information:http://www.century-of-flight.net/Aviation%20history/photo_albums/timeline/ww2/2/Lavochkin%20La%207.htm

Sorry i get different information supporting both load outs so I think there was a compromise in the load out that we were given.

[Bruv119]

your right the la7 should only have 2 x 20mm option as this was the most common configuration.

add the 3rd cannon with perks.

[Anaxogoras]

your right the la7 should only have 2 x 20mm option as this was the most common configuration.

Understatement.

[Die Hard]

your right the la7 should only have 2 x 20mm option as this was the most common configuration.

add the 3rd cannon with perks.

Why perks?

[Cajunn]

your right the la7 should only have 2 x 20mm option as this was the most common configuration.

add the 3rd cannon with perks.

I have used it with both and the only real different's I have notices was that the 3 gun configuration holds 50 rounds more at the distances that I shoot the 2 guns or just as effective.

[Spikes]

If you're really going to whine about the LA7 having 3 guns, look at every other plane in the game. There isn't much difference and you run out of ammo the same if not quicker. I'm not scared of LA's at all when I fly.

[Anaxogoras]

If you're really going to whine about the LA7 having 3 guns, look at every other plane in the game. There isn't much difference and you run out of ammo the same if not quicker. I'm not scared of LA's at all when I fly.

non sequitur.  This has nothing to do with the effectiveness of the La-7.

[Masherbrum]

If you're really going to whine about the LA7 having 3 guns, look at every other plane in the game. There isn't much difference and you run out of ammo the same if not quicker. I'm not scared of LA's at all when I fly.

You've obviously never flown against a "good" La7 stick.

Back to the discussion.   Limiting the ammo has no ill effect on the La7.   It is one of the better turners (although most don't) in the game, has very good lethality at less than 300 out (it's how I roll).   The only shortcoming is the range, which is easily handled by conserving fuel inbound.

[Tilt]

I was just wondering, I think that the load out on the La-7 is not accurate:


Armament: Three 20 mm Beresin B-20 (faster firing) ShVak cannon with 200 rounds per gun plus two 220 lbs (100 kg) bombs. Underwing racks could accept up to six RS-82 rockets.

This is where I got my information:http://www.century-of-flight.net/Aviation%20history/photo_albums/timeline/ww2/2/Lavochkin%20La%207.htm

Sorry i get different information supporting both load outs so I think there was a compromise in the load out that we were given.

The B 20 was not faster firing as implemented on the La7. ROC/per gun was the same for both the ShVak and the B-20 (per gun) The overriding advantage of the B-20 was that it was light. Infact 3 x B20's plus 450 rounds was lighter than 2 x ShVak with 400 rounds.

In fact the AH load out is the maximum the belt feeds could take. many texts refer to 180 rnds per gun on the ShVak la7's and as low as 130 rnds /gun on the B-20 birds

The disadvantage (of the B-20) was that it was an extremely unreliable cannon (on the La7) and even in its final implementation it only had the half the reliable life of the older dependable ShVak.

If any one can ever show any picture of a lavochkin with rockets under the wings we would all like to see it. Whilst the LaGG 3 (same wing) used 3 x rockets per wing I have never seen any account or picture of the same on any La5 or La7.

When we perk ord then we should perk many such loadouts such as the 3 cannon la7 IMO.

Back to the discussion.   Limiting the ammo has no ill effect on the La7.

  was that the discussion?

[Anaxogoras]

From the AH wiki:

only 368 of these fighters saw front line action

And we know that far more 109G-6s with the Mk 108 saw combat than that.

[Tec]

If we're gonna argue over numbers produced let's look at it this way.  If 368 3 gun LA7's made it to the front line that's still slightly more than the total number of Chogs + Ostwinds + Wirblewinds.

EDIT: Going off on a tangent here.  IN GAME what are the differences between the ShVak and the B20?  My old buddy Shauny always preferred the ShVaks, he seemed to think they hit harder, and had better ballistics(higher velocity?).

[Anaxogoras]

EDIT: Going off on a tangent here.  IN GAME what are the differences between the ShVak and the B20?  My old buddy Shauny always preferred the ShVaks, he seemed to think they hit harder, and had better ballistics(higher velocity?).

Equivalent lethality/ballistics/rof, but the B-20 was much lighter, and that's why it allowed for the 3 gun armament.  3 shvaks would have made the La-7 too nose heavy.

[Die Hard]

Numbers produced/saw service has nothing to do with why Hitech perks certain planes. The only thing that matters is whether it unbalances the arena or not. The F4U1C did, so it got perked. The Ta 152 didn't so it got unperked. The La-7 might be annoying, but it is hardly an unbalancing factor in the arena.

[moot]

Numbers produced/saw service has nothing to do with why Hitech perks certain planes. The only thing that matters is whether it unbalances the arena or not. The F4U1C did, so it got perked. The Ta 152 didn't so it got unperked. The La-7 might be annoying, but it is hardly an unbalancing factor in the arena.

That doesn't negate the possibility that perking loadouts could improve the arenas' balance.

[Anaxogoras]

I don't care if I have to pay perks for the Mk 108 on the G-6, but I'd like the option.

The point is consistency.  Don't give one aircraft a special weapon of which there were only 348 examples that saw combat, but deny another aircraft a special weapon of which a number approaching 1000 saw combat (conservative estimate).