Author Topic: E-retention (Read 4204 times)

funked · « **Reply #45 on:** October 18, 2000, 04:54:00 PM »

Hey Mino try posting on the subject instead of making thinly veiled personal comments. There are plenty of good explanations for what Gatt saw. In fact I bet I read his post more carefully than you and understand it better. If he wants to blame his death on bad flight models and make it a reason for quitting... too bad for him.

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Minotaur · « **Reply #46 on:** October 18, 2000, 09:39:00 PM »

Funked;

Sorry; I always forget how inferior that I am to you in every way. My bad.

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Mino
The Wrecking Crew

"Anyway, more golf..."
Humble

funked · « **Reply #47 on:** October 19, 2000, 12:45:00 AM »

LOL Mino! Maybe true, but you probably have a better sense of humor. Your statements above remain false.

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Coolknight · « **Reply #48 on:** October 19, 2000, 08:15:00 AM »

You might be doing a slight mistake here.

Many aircraft like the F4U, 109
190 and a few others have a rather
flat underside. And at high speed
and some angle of attack
these do produce some lift which
if not considered will result in
a plane that does not behave like
intended. So when you use wing loading
you have to modify this value depending
on the type of plane and the angle of attack.

Regards,
Coolknight

Westy · « **Reply #49 on:** October 19, 2000, 08:50:00 AM »

Had my first raised eye brow encounter with TWO F4U's (blie nose. is that the D or C?) last night.
I in a P-38 with an alt advantage proceeded to make a 450+mph pass at two F4U's who break, come back around and chased me down in no time flat.
Can I have the P-38's "E" back from version 1.02 or whatever?

-Westy

Wanker · « **Reply #50 on:** October 19, 2000, 09:01:00 AM »

<S> Westy! You had two hog's chasing you last night. I was in the "D" model hog(yellow nose), and the guy that killed you was in the "C" model hog(blue nose).

I was amazed at how well you flew that P-38 last night, it was a remarkable display of flying skill. Nonetheless, I came at you from an oblique angle while you were involved with the "C" hog, and had a good deal of energy myself. And, once I latch onto someone, they don't escape too many times.

I will say, however, that the Chog seemed to have more power than my Dhog during our chase of you.

Westy · « **Reply #51 on:** October 19, 2000, 09:29:00 AM »

Thanks banana

The 'incident' I'm mentioning happened after I came back about an hour later. You two were a really good fight

and one that was honest and fair. I wish I'd lasted a wee bit longer to at least have gotten one of you two. As it was I only managed to nail an unsuspecting 'Animal' before succumbing to the 1C's cannon on my 6.

-Westy

*now I wish I could recall how I flew that 38 to duplicate it

Vermillion · « **Reply #52 on:** October 19, 2000, 10:42:00 AM »

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Can I have the P-38's "E" back from version 1.02 or whatever?

LOL!! Now THAT was a TIE fighter Westy

Go look up at the top of this thread, and you will see that the P-38 is in a virtual tie with the N1K2, for second place in E retention.

Two V One is tough in just about any matchup.

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Vermillion
**MOL**, Men of Leisure

Westy · « **Reply #53 on:** October 19, 2000, 10:55:00 AM »

I figured someone would catch that one Verm

Anyway,,, it was one-on-two! I had them cornered, or so I though. I had the speed, the E and it was no way a turn fight. I'm about to hop in a 1C too at this point. <shivers>.

-Westy

Pyro · « **Reply #54 on:** October 19, 2000, 11:18:00 AM »

The -1C and -1D both use the same flight model. Without external ordnance, the -1C is about 100-200 lbs lighter than the -1D.

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Doug "Pyro" Balmos
HiTech Creations

Hooligan · « **Reply #55 on:** October 19, 2000, 11:35:00 AM »

Pyro:

Thanks for the info.

Hooligan

Hooligan · « **Reply #56 on:** October 19, 2000, 12:13:00 PM »

Westy:

I think I was the guy in the 1C. I wish I had filmed it. As I recall once I slipped your attack I managed to climb a bit off and on when you were busy with banana. When I finally got you, you were evading banana and I was almost co-E with you about that time. My recollection is that we slowly erroded your e-margin because you had to maneuver more since you had to deal with both of us.

Hooligan

Wanker · « **Reply #57 on:** October 19, 2000, 02:22:00 PM »

LOL! Is there anyone who didn't shoot down Westy last night?

Hooligan, I think we're talking about two different times, because when the Chog next to me finally waxed Westy, we were at tree-top level. Sounds like your fight ended much higher. Btw, Westy put up one helluva fight with us. He's more slippery than an eel!

Seeker · « **Reply #58 on:** June 14, 2001, 12:52:00 PM »

Why can't we have more threafds like this?

Where's Badz these days??

Badboy · « **Reply #59 on:** June 14, 2001, 07:41:00 PM »

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Originally posted by Seeker:
Why can't we have more threafds like this?

Where's Badz these days??

Hi Seeker,

I'm very busy, Andy Bush and I are working hard on the Eurofighter Typhoon strategy guide.

However, I have promised to do a full EM analysis for all of the AH aircraft, and will begin that once my schedule is clear in September. I'm looking forward to it. I’m really missing my online flying!!

Badboy

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