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Offline LYNX

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Re: AAR & sorrowful confession
« Reply #60 on: March 31, 2009, 10:35:16 AM »
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AND I will continue to reiterate til it sinks thru the ol noggin that even 20 to a port or vbase that is well defended MAY not be enough at times....

Can't agree with you more but the key word here is Defended.  Considering the arena environment at the time.  Considering the information available on radar I think it reasonable to have assumed there would be little defence.

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There are crazy things like gvs, supplies and whats the floaty thing with deadly guns that can kill you (surrounded by other floaty things with deadly guns) from 5k plus and takes a crapload of ordinance to kill....oh yeah a CV...we Bish are not as adept at knowing where the enemy cvs are at all times as YOU seem to be...BTW the floaty thing can spawn planes like an airbase...FYI

Be careful here I may have to add you to the list of paranoid Bish.  Yes I am adept at figuring out where Cv's are likely to be....grasp of the game and all that :) 

Funny how you mentions CV's at ports within ten minutes of Belial posting about CV's.  The fact of the matter the Cv wasn't there.  This was and I'm assuming reported by the Bish that killed the ports radar some 15 to 20 min earlier.  Let alone the dribs and drabs of Bish that had visited said port in the hour leading up to the attack.   Funny also how this convenient side bar to the issue hasn't been brought up before.  Perhaps because it was a known fact the CV wasn't there.

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The way you, shawk, elk etc were typing on ch 200 sure made it seem as if there would be a stiff resistance at the time...it never panned out.  Also the vbase in question had a friendly (rook) gv spawn into it and the rooks occupied the adjacent airfield.

I only made a comment after the Vbase was captured "If your giving it wtg for that capture you should be ashamed"...to quote.  I saw the dar dots as I was RTB'ing.  Like many others I was already in air committed.  As previously stated not many are willing and rightly so to bail.

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Well I hope this helps you put things into proper perspective...if not at least we can agree that you are so far committed into continuing this argument that you refuse to acknowledge the reality of field capture...perhaps you should take a tour as bish or knight to realize that this is NOT a bish or Thndregg issue...

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SO my point remains that NOONE can arbiter what is overkill for a base capture because NOONE ever knows what the resistance will be...

If you were a 2 week newbie I would grant you the fact about not knowing what the resistance would be.  However I don't in the least think this the case.  How many 2 weekers muster a 20+ missions?Within 5 minutes of joining the arena it's easy to assess the situation couple that with known facts and good guess work you have a pretty good idea of things. 

The REALITY of field capture isn't to over kill or to treat every base including ports as being armed to the teeth.  This game would turn to watermelon if every mission or every capture attempt was to transgress to this ideology ....that's my whole point.  Given the arena environment at the time.  Given the known facts.  Given that someone other than a 2 week newbie could guesstimate a given resistance at a given time I maintain that that was pure over kill on a port.

What do you actually think happens?  You think rooks are sat in the tower waiting on the next Bish or Knight mission?  You think 20+ plus wirlies were sat there at the port waiting for the attack that was big enough to take the adjacent field.  Or do you have a REALISTIC acceptance that most players at any given time are in the Air / Gv'ing doing stuff. 

Mark my words...if crap like this were to continue or worse still...expand.  It will provoke the powers to be to protect their product which will have profound consequences on us all.....   Think ENY think arena split.

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Re: AAR & sorrowful confession
« Reply #61 on: March 31, 2009, 10:37:15 AM »
By posting this AAR I prove 1 man is as effective as 20.

Hardly ... a more appropriate word would be "lucky" instead of "effective" ... it was the 20 that really knocked the town down, you just took advantage of the rebuild time. If towns immediately re-genned at capture, no single person could every reverse a recent capture.
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Re: AAR & sorrowful confession
« Reply #62 on: March 31, 2009, 10:55:05 AM »
Hardly ... a more appropriate word would be "lucky" instead of "effective" ... it was the 20 that really knocked the town down, you just took advantage of the rebuild time. If towns immediately re-genned at capture, no single person could every reverse a recent capture.

Luckely in reality the town stays down 45 minutes.  Luckely I made use of the resources available to me.  Luckely there was no adequate defence.  Luckely they were do busy weaselling around doing 1 NOE after another....Luckely

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Re: AAR & sorrowful confession
« Reply #63 on: March 31, 2009, 11:10:53 AM »
Yes, it's a tough line bruv and for that I make no apologies. (no offence intended)

However, in my opinion AH doesn't have any problems with it's current game play, sure a few things could be tidied up (feet dry spawning, being able to launch a million torpedoes in seconds etc).

If HTC had an issue with NOE then he could simply enable radar at all heights, if he had an issue with missions, he could delete the mission editor. I seem to remember that he isn't backwards in going forwards and will make changes as he sees fit.

All I see is whining from certain minority sections of the community about the way other  sections of the community want to play. The players don't own the game and have no rights at all, none what so ever. HTC sets the rules and we play our game according to them, Period.

If the rules change then we either accept them and get on with it or we cancel our account and go elsewhere. (as I did with warbirds in 2002)

It's not tough to find a fight in the LW arenas, it's not tough to find something to bomb or to find another GV to slug it out with. When the knights or rooks organise a mission against bishops and take a field or two, I don't come on here and complain.

Frankly why should it be any ones business if Bishops use 20 aircraft to take a port ? If the opposing side wanted to keep it badly enough then they should have upped and defended it.

Anyway, that's my take on it.

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Dude...be carefull what you wish for HTC, as you rightly say, has a habit of changing things....think ENY / ARENA SPLITS. 

As for "Frankly why should it be any ones business if Bishops use 20 aircraft to take a port ? If the opposing side wanted to keep it badly enough then they should have upped and defended it. " To have defended against that mission you would have had to have guys in tower ready to defend.  Players play ...they don't sit about waiting. 

As for some of your other comments I can only say ....Nintendo is a 1 time payment.... without any whining as you call it.

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« Reply #64 on: March 31, 2009, 12:03:32 PM »
Five pages of posts for one GAMEY capture.

As to the second and third account: Your defense of the claim and insult of paranoia speaks to your self-image (superiority). Dont worry you will be taken off your high horse soon enough.
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Re: AAR & sorrowful confession
« Reply #65 on: March 31, 2009, 01:47:10 PM »
Five pages of posts for one GAMEY capture.

As to the second and third account: Your defense of the claim and insult of paranoia speaks to your self-image (superiority). Dont worry you will be taken off your high horse soon enough.

And patting oneself on the back.    :D  Then it turns into a NOE bashing thread.  Same story different week.  Wonder who will start it next week?

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Re: AAR & sorrowful confession
« Reply #66 on: March 31, 2009, 01:58:16 PM »
This whole thread gives me flash backs of grade school :huh

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Re: AAR & sorrowful confession
« Reply #67 on: March 31, 2009, 02:21:05 PM »
Five pages of posts for one GAMEY capture.

As to the second and third account: Your defense of the claim and insult of paranoia speaks to your self-image (superiority). Dont worry you will be taken off your high horse soon enough.

Clip clop clip clop......NEY.   So you were referring indirectly to me.  It'll take a better man than you Gunga Din.  At least you recognise the 20+ capture as unorthodox.  Which really is my whole point.  No need for that kind of thing.

I must admit though I am superior in game than the paranoid ones.  The ones that believe "assumption" are as good as hard facts.  I am Superior in game than those that choose to believe and deal in rumours.  Infact I must be Superior to some....why else would they be worried?  Could it be they are inferior without a clue.  Without a grasp of the game?  It must be hard to the point of frustration for the paranoid to even fathom "how did he do that" :rolleyes:  But of cause the paranoid never even bother to ask themselves that....after all they are fantastic people who can't be beat.  So their assumptions are as good as words written in stone. :lol


Here's another example of cv detection that I forget to say last time round.  If your ammo factory on a coast was being knocked out but the map showed no flashing of said factory, no dar bar .....what on earth could it be? A) The tooth fairy B) Santa Clause C) Snow white and the seven perverts....oops wrong title D) a dirty great big cv shelling the nuts outta the place.

If I put 2 shovels against a wall and ask you to take your pick....would that confuse you?


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Re: AAR & sorrowful confession
« Reply #68 on: March 31, 2009, 02:59:15 PM »
If your ammo factory on a coast was being knocked out but the map showed no flashing of said factory, no dar bar .....what on earth could it be? A) The tooth fairy B) Santa Clause C) Snow white and the seven perverts....oops wrong title D) a dirty great big cv shelling the nuts outta the place.

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Re: AAR & sorrowful confession
« Reply #69 on: March 31, 2009, 03:28:45 PM »
I must admit though I am superior in game than the paranoid ones.  The ones that believe "assumption" are as good as hard facts.  I am Superior in game than those that choose to believe and deal in rumours. 

Just as I thought... your meds must be messing with your head.

Actually an ex-squadie of yours confessed your sins for you.

And anytime you think you can take me 1-on-1 lets do it. Just post the challenge.  :D

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« Reply #70 on: March 31, 2009, 03:45:38 PM »
Sounds to me like we need to run some more large missions.  In fact, I think we will just to make the ol' fan club happy.
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Re: AAR & sorrowful confession
« Reply #71 on: March 31, 2009, 04:24:59 PM »
  At least you recognise the 20+ capture as unorthodox.  Which really is my whole point.  No need for that kind of thing.

I think that statement sums up your feelings on the subject.

BUT, this has been going on for a week now!

While, I can understand your point of view on the capture in question, don't you think this has gone on long enough?

The reason I ask this is, it seems unusual to see you go off this bad for so long about what some might consider a trivial thing.

You normally have really funny , concise comments about things that bother you.

This thread however, seems to find you totally out of character.

Let it go.



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Re: AAR & sorrowful confession
« Reply #72 on: March 31, 2009, 04:25:00 PM »
Just as I thought... your meds must be messing with your head.

Actually an ex-squadie of yours confessed your sins for you.

And anytime you think you can take me 1-on-1 lets do it. Just post the challenge.  :D



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Re: AAR & sorrowful confession
« Reply #73 on: March 31, 2009, 05:10:38 PM »
lol Can't believe this debate has lasted this long. Dirt Farmers and pilots.... just be what you want to be in the game. All I need is one base to up from to find a fight.
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Re: AAR & sorrowful confession
« Reply #74 on: March 31, 2009, 06:50:07 PM »
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  If your ammo factory on a coast was being knocked out but the map showed no flashing of said factory, no dar bar .....what on earth could it be? A) The tooth fairy B) Santa Clause C) Snow white and the seven perverts....oops wrong title D) a dirty great big cv shelling the nuts outta the place.

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