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Re: Hot Pepper Sauce (+ Finns?)
« Reply #30 on: April 03, 2009, 03:52:11 PM »
I'm just starting growing my own so I don't have so much experience on that front, but my habaneros seem to be coming up pretty well :) I'm hoping I get some fruit out of them before I manage to kill them as I'm not really a botanist.

As for what other people have grown and processed, I think the "extract" thingies aren't really for me as I have a problem with my stomach (googling around says that it is gastroesophageal reflux thing in English) and the extracts really do not fit with my stomach :(

The regular chiles and sauces are fine, sauce-wise I like ones I can buy locally like El Yucateco and Mama Africa.

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Re: Hot Pepper Sauce (+ Finns?)
« Reply #31 on: April 03, 2009, 04:37:59 PM »
WTG wasq!!

It's pretty easy.  Peppers self-pollinate (bees help, but if you don't have bees a gentle breeze takes care of it).

Let us all know how it goes!



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Re: Hot Pepper Sauce (+ Finns?)
« Reply #32 on: April 03, 2009, 05:12:26 PM »
We have a hot dog join near one of the ball parks that will throw a Polish sausage at you, heavy on grilled onion, with the perfect sweet mustard. And of course this gastronomical disaster needs about 4 or 5 jalapeño peppers loaded in the bun.

After a beer guzzling day at the ball park this is the most perfect food on the planet. But what makes it, or any hot dog, are the peppers. The next morning however.....

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Re: Hot Pepper Sauce (+ Finns?)
« Reply #33 on: April 03, 2009, 05:25:21 PM »
Yes Bab---upping the garlic is just fine.  Since (just like the heat) the sauce gets diluded some later anyway, it's just fine.  You can't have TOO much garlic for me, but when guests come over I have them taste test whatever I am making so I don't over do it for them.


The words "too", "much", and "garlic" when used in the same sentence is blasphemy.

If you've heard of Gilroy, California it's a huge garlic producing region with a huge annual garlic festival.  One year while driving with my future Ex-wife to see her mom in Santa Cruz we were driving through Gilroy in the peak of harvesting season.  The air was rank with the aroma of garlic, so I of course rolled down the car windows and enjoyed it while my Ex had her head stuffed under her sweater to try and escape the overpowering aroma... then again she could just be part blood-sucking-vampire.

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Re: Hot Pepper Sauce (+ Finns?)
« Reply #34 on: April 04, 2009, 01:37:43 PM »
Quite true. When I read the label if it says extract I put it back. Dave's Insanity sauce, Endorphins Rush and such. Super hot, no flavor.

I was gonna say daves insanity sauce also.... That stuff will kill u :rofl  It actually has a warning label on it for people that may have heart conditions.. Ouch   :rock
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Re: Hot Pepper Sauce (+ Finns?)
« Reply #35 on: April 04, 2009, 01:40:38 PM »
Sorry to hear about the quality problem.

We get excellent quality peppers that are USA grown.  And yes, I grow my own.

As for the habenero heat horror stories:

Once I was de-seeding habs for sauce and aftergetting them in the pot had to go to the bathroom...(I hadn't washed my hands thoroughly first......)
As I walked back to the kitchen, the immense pain started slowly and then.....

 :O  :O  :O  :O  :O  :O  :O      :cry  :cry  :cry  :cry  :cry  :cry AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!

It was just like having your "area" feel like someone threw gas on your "area" and lit a match!!

I ran (faster than an Olympic athlete) back to the bathroom---took off my clothes and jumped in the shower with a bar of soap.


BTW:  It was hard to hear my own screaming over my wife's laughter :rofl   :rofl   :rofl    :rofl  :rofl




Yeah....she loves me. :rolleyes:




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Re: Hot Pepper Sauce (+ Finns?)
« Reply #36 on: April 05, 2009, 10:14:13 AM »
"My 7 year old habenero tree is doing well and still puts out about 5 lbs of peppers a year."


That just makes me  :cry

Northern Ohio growing season is only long enough for the bushes to get 2 ft tall.  I've taken de-seeded habs, red and green bell peppers, a carrot, a few leaves of cilantro, and some Franks Red Hot, put in blender till smooth.  Bottle and let rest for a week.

I think we have all done the bathroom thing after cutting peppers, that's why I ALWAYS wear gloves now.  :cool:

I have the same problem Dragon, im one state over in eastern PA.

I devote a full 10X10 section of my garden to hot peppers.

Any suggestions of types would be appreciated, i normally grow haberano ( ugg bad spelling sry ) Big Jims, banana peppers and jalapeno's. But im thinking of expanding this year.

Rox, Dragon-- do you grow any Thai peppers, and if so do you have much luck with them?
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Re: Hot Pepper Sauce (+ Finns?)
« Reply #37 on: April 05, 2009, 01:21:37 PM »
For folks who live in higher latitudes--"pot" farming, or growing the plants in 5 gallon buckets (you can get them free from housing contractors--they usually contain "mud" or the thick paste that sheet rock contractors use to make walls in homes--you can also get them from restraunts where they get pickles, hot dogs, corned beef, or sauerkraut in  5 gallon buckets).  My buckets were former corned beef and sauerkraut buckets. 

Simply fill the botton 3" with gravel or rocks...the next 8" with a mixture of 40% sand and dirt...then a 4" layer of animal waste (cow, horse, or duck work best, but even Fido's is just as effective)...then a final (top) layer of 70% soil, 20% sand and 10% animal waste (poop) and ash...ashes from your charcoal grill work just fine.  Using a 16 penny nail or hand drill, drill 5 to 6 drainage holes in the side just up from the bottom for excess rain/water to drain out.  While other people's peppers might be drownding in the ground during an overly rainy spring or summer--yours are doing just fine becaue their "feet" are up and drained.

What you are doing is recreating the home soils of Mexico, Central America & the Carribean.  The ash recreates volcanic ash and ash debris.

The SWEET part is you can either start your own seedlings in peat pots (small) the week after New Years indoors and transfer them to the pots about now...and then set them outside in a sunny place the week after you are sure of the last cold snap or frost of the Spring.  You can move them around the yard or deck because they are mobile (heavy-but at least portable). 

When the Michigan or Cayahoga Fall starts sinking in--bring 'em inside to someplace where they can get plenty of light and remember to water them.  They will drop a few leaves and go dormant for the winter.  In the Spring, trim off the twig or two that died and put it back outside. 

I have seen pepper "trees" get to 6 and 7 FEET tall.  There's a guy here locally that always scores the blue ribbon at the county fair with his--but I'm entering my 7 year old Habenero and give him a run for his money.

You can do this with with any variety of pepper as well as tomatoes.

I have never grown the Thai (purple) pepper but it's kind of like a Tobasco gone horribly awry.  The reported Scoville Units put it about a couple of hundred units more than the Habenero red Savina, but there's reall not enough good sources of reliable research to prove it.  I have never seen seeds for it around these parts and if folks do have seeds--their not sharing.

If you want a pepper that will out and out rip your face off and make you wish you hadn't eaten them the next day at toilet time it's Habenero Red Savinas. I LOVE hot peppers and hot sauce but Red Savinas are just TOO hot to be enjoyed without heavily diluting the sauce with another, far less hot sauce.



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Re: Hot Pepper Sauce (+ Finns?)
« Reply #38 on: April 05, 2009, 01:44:29 PM »
I devote a full 10X10 section of my garden to hot peppers.

Any suggestions of types would be appreciated, i normally grow habenero ( ugg bad spelling sry ) Big Jims, banana peppers and jalapeno's. But im thinking of expanding this year.


"Chili Picante" also known as "Chili Red" is available right now at most Walmarts.  Also "Cow's Horn" is a nice red that makes a nice sauce.  Walmart also has Tobascos. 

There's an old family secret of mine that the Trappey's Company seems to have stolen.  It's not hot sauce it's called "Pepper Sauce" and there is a difference.

Take what ever hot pepper you like (Trappeys uses tobascos and so do I, but my grandfather used a hot variant hybrid of banana he cross bred himself).  Take the de-stemmed peppers, slice each pepper in half and place in a large pot.  Put just enough plain clear vinegar in the pot to cover the peppers--then add exactly 3 cups more.  Use 4T of salt as a preservative and bring the pepper sauce to a boil.  Immediately can the pepper sauce into sterilyzed pint Ball or Mason jars and store in a cool, dry place.  The vinegar absorbs-as it were-some of the oils that have the hot taste over time.  Aging at least a few days is good-- a few weeks or months is even better.

This sauce is purely intended to go over greens (most folks in northern states don't know what "greens" are...it can be spinach greens, turnip greens, etc.) lima beans, black eyed peas, or most any cooked garden vegatable. Just a little bit of the liquid gives a nice, hot kick to normally bland canned or cooked veggies.  Most have never heard of this sauce (which isn't really a sauce, technically) north of Mason-Dixon.

Good luck there mbailey!  Maybe with your 10 x 10 and some 5 gallon buckets, you can have the best sauce in the north!




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Re: Hot Pepper Sauce (+ Finns?)
« Reply #39 on: April 05, 2009, 02:10:06 PM »
I'm lazy so I mostly use Habanero Tabasco with my foods. It's hotter than regular red tabasco but of course nothing like raw Hab.
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Re: Hot Pepper Sauce (+ Finns?)
« Reply #40 on: April 05, 2009, 02:17:52 PM »
"Chili Picante" also known as "Chili Red" is available right now at most Walmarts.  Also "Cow's Horn" is a nice red that makes a nice sauce.  Walmart also has Tobascos. 

There's an old family secret of mine that the Trappey's Company seems to have stolen.  It's not hot sauce it's called "Pepper Sauce" and there is a difference.

Take what ever hot pepper you like (Trappeys uses tobascos and so do I, but my grandfather used a hot variant hybrid of banana he cross bred himself).  Take the de-stemmed peppers, slice each pepper in half and place in a large pot.  Put just enough plain clear vinegar in the pot to cover the peppers--then add exactly 3 cups more.  Use 4T of salt as a preservative and bring the pepper sauce to a boil.  Immediately can the pepper sauce into sterilyzed pint Ball or Mason jars and store in a cool, dry place.  The vinegar absorbs-as it were-some of the oils that have the hot taste over time.  Aging at least a few days is good-- a few weeks or months is even better.

This sauce is purely intended to go over greens (most folks in northern states don't know what "greens" are...it can be spinach greens, turnip greens, etc.) lima beans, black eyed peas, or most any cooked garden vegatable. Just a little bit of the liquid gives a nice, hot kick to normally bland canned or cooked veggies.  Most have never heard of this sauce (which isn't really a sauce, technically) north of Mason-Dixon.

Good luck there mbailey!  Maybe with your 10 x 10 and some 5 gallon buckets, you can have the best sauce in the north!




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What can i say Rox, the info you gave me was beyond what i was looking for.

Im gonna get to work straight away on these planters, and im fortunate to have a friend that has a dairy farm close, so the "fertilizer" is free.

When i get a chance, ill forward you my mother in laws hot pepper jelly recipe. Now its not something to smear on your breakfast toast ( unless your like me and pour hot sauce on your scrambled eggs  :D ) but it is great spread over top a bar if Philadelphia cream cheese, and served with Wheat thins or Triscuts. Sweet but with a spicy bite. Not to mention my recipe for hoagie and cheese steak spread. ( I live near Phila so making that one was a must) Ill get back to you on my progress with the planters,

Thanks again

Edit: I may have a line on those Thai peppers, I checked Burpee and Gurney seed companys but i didnt see anything, I have a farm store near me ( Agway ) that may have them, my father in law swears by this place and is also a huge hot pepper fan. He believes that they do indeed have them, stay tuned!!

I dont know much about this supplier, but it seems like a decent sight, and he has some exotics that i have honestly never heard of.

 http://www.pepperjoe.com/cgi-bin/web_store/Library/web_store.pl?page=seeds.html&cart_id=2279708_23839

and this one

http://www.tradewindsfruit.com/hot_peppers.htm

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Re: Hot Pepper Sauce (+ Finns?)
« Reply #41 on: April 05, 2009, 03:55:38 PM »
Hey!  THANK YOU for the links mbailey!

And thanks for the kind words--but even coming from a farm background as a kid--I was a complete noob pepper farmer until about 8 years ago when I met a local (the guy who wins all the county fair competitions) about growing them.  I was flippin stoopid and bought plants--planted them WAY too close together in the ground, and was confused when they cross-polinated, if they even put out peppers at all!  I lost one entire crop to slugs one year!

"Charlie", mentored me (more like "well why did you do it that way ya dumbarse?) and I learned a lot through him as well as the internet.  Most growers around here trade seeds instead of buying them, and are proud of their own private hybrids.  There are still some foreign and ornimental peppers I have not found seeds for yet.



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Re: Hot Pepper Sauce (+ Finns?)
« Reply #42 on: April 05, 2009, 07:28:26 PM »
LOLOL Bab!   :aok

I think your "EX" story sums it up pretty well. :rofl

I know RL pilots who have reported to have smelled the Gilroy Garlic Festival from many, many miles away in the air from 3,500' !!

No, in this house there is no such term as "too much garlic".  I just made triple meaty 3 pasta pasta $ sauce--pretty sure most of Hot Springs could smell it from the mountain location here.   :aok

And of COURSE---I put HOT SAUCE on it! :aok


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