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Offline snafu

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Radar questions concerning bomber routing.
« Reply #30 on: February 27, 2001, 05:47:00 PM »
Hi all,
 All sounds good to me but don't forget many fields are above 500ft alt anyway  so it wouldn't have as much effect as people seem to think. Mind you it would make sneaking up on the CV a lot easier.

The delayed ack has come up several times before (No pun intended)   and still sounds good. I like the idea of swarms of little grunts running out to man them. (And being able to strafe them to delay the acks coming up still further).  

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« Reply #31 on: February 27, 2001, 06:21:00 PM »
 
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All sounds good to me but don't forget many fields are above 500ft


We mean 500 feet AG, not 500 feet ASL.

as long as yer less the 500 feet off the ground you shouldent show up,  of course if yer flying over the peak of a mountin at 500 feet you should show up, but not if yer weaving through canyons or just flat ground.

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« Reply #32 on: February 28, 2001, 08:48:00 AM »
Sneak raids where important in WW2. But here we have almost none of the disadvantages of flying at 200 feet. The deck was a dangorous place to be in WW2.

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« Reply #33 on: February 28, 2001, 09:10:00 AM »
keep the bars, reduce enemy icon range to 1.5

who's got all day to fly around such a huge map not even knowing if anyone is in a particular grid? With a lower icon range it would give you a higher "sneak" factor while still telling you with a bar that something was in the grid.

smaller map, yeah then the bar could go...

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« Reply #34 on: February 28, 2001, 11:52:00 AM »
 
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Originally posted by Jekyll:
 Umm Maverick.  Ever heard of 'rhubarbs'?  Ever heard of the 'Doolittle Raid'?  Or how about the ultra-low level Dornier sorties against British airfields during the Battle of Britain?  Or the 'DamBuster' mission?  Or the Mosquito raid on Gestapo Headquarters, or the sinking of the Tirpitz etc etc etc.

Unrealistic, huh?


Jekyll,

Ever hear why the Brits changed to night bombing missions instead of daylight??? Ever hear of the 8th Air Forces "excessive and unsupportable" losses in daylight missions?? Why did those losses only slow down after the introduction of long range fighter aircraft capable of making it all the way into the target??  Why were the chances of completing a tour of duty as a bomber crewman almost impossible in the first half of the war??? I think the Memphis Belle story might give you a clue.

Did you take a look at the losses of the damn busters raid??? Almost 50% if I recall on one raid. They didn't all fly into wires that night. Why was that raid conducted at night???

Why did the Doolittle raid take off from the position they did instead of the planned location that was much closer to the mainland???  Why did the B29's hitting Japan initially fly as high as they did before LeMay ordered them to conduct mid level fire bomb raids?? Why did many of those same B29's not make it back to base after the mission??

Yes there were several missions that were in effect unopposed. The multiple thousands of bomber aircrew on both sides who did not survive are a testament that most of those missions were intercepted by some obviously effective form of interception.

Yes, expectations of unobserved unopposed buff raids deep into an enemy country ARE unrealistic. Just why are buffs in the game given a gunnery range advantage and ultra accurate bomb sights?


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« Reply #35 on: February 28, 2001, 12:05:00 PM »
FYI, HT stated that if he ever considered changing anything in regards to radar, the ONLY thing he'd consider is changing to it is the elimination of the "Bar Dar" for A/C under 500 feet.

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« Reply #36 on: February 28, 2001, 01:07:00 PM »
 
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FYI, HT stated that if he ever considered changing anything in regards to radar, the ONLY thing he'd consider is changing to it is the elimination of the "Bar Dar" for A/C under 500 feet.

Thats exactly what we want.

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« Reply #37 on: March 01, 2001, 02:34:00 AM »
I would not ask for more than that.

Cheers,

Pepe