DA is a problem

[dentin]

***SNIP***

Listen guys, just saying that the new guys should go to the TA isn't nearly enough.  You're seriously deluding yourself if you think that that alone would make a serious dent.


Right now, the training system in the TA is anemic at best.


Disclaimer:  This is in no way a shot at the guys who are Trainers.  I'm just saying that if HTC is going to build forced training into the game, or if the community is serious about improving game play, there really needs to be something different happening in the TA then what is in there right now.

Another cold, rainy, dreary day in the Northeast...time to waste some bandwidth. 

Anyone that IS interested in learning how this game functions, will take the time to seek AND find either a trainer or someone that will take the time to explain/demonstrate the basics.

Those that think the DA is an Arena for "pond scum", two(2) choices..(1) stay out of the Arena (2) if you (gasp) venture into the Arena why not ask if anyone would like to learn "the tricks of the trade" as it were.


Knowing that "opinions" are just like Armpits , in that they sometime stink..here's mine: Instead of y'all complaining, why not take a "newbie" under your wing and teach him/her the "ropes" as it were. 

[DamnedRen]

Pond scum....hmmmmm

Dentin what the heck are you doing herer in the forums? Yer not up flying?

At least I'm at work.

What's yer excuse? 

Ren

[FiLtH]

  Someone needs to create a AH Bible with lots of pictures. Not graphs (that can come later) but pictures showing the very basics like BigR mentioned. How to improve the views..many new guys have no clue the default views can be changed and saved. Im also a fan of the beginner arena idea. Let them fight eachother rather than coming into an MA and getting flamed every 5 minutes.

[dentin]

Pond scum....hmmmmm

Not my choice of words...just a quote 

Dentin what the heck are you doing herer in the forums? Yer not up flying? What's yer excuse? 

To much of a good thing has a tendency to turn said "thing" into a not so good thing 

At least I'm at work.

Your at work??  Naww, posting on the BBS is not work..more like fun/entertainment, ergo, your "work" falls under the category of fun/entertainment, soo, it's technically not work. Pretty "cushy" job BTW.   

[kilz]

i been saying it for years THE DA NEEDS MODS

[CAP1]

i been saying it for years THE DA NEEDS MODS

it almost sounds like the da is full of guys that just like to pat each other on the backs.....no matter what. they seem to like to win.,....no matter what.

forget mods, forget changing anything. just get a large group of veteran sticks together in there with one mission in  mind.......provide them with a good fight. they'll either learn to fight well, or they;ll leave.

 the other optionm, is to leave em alone, so they stay right there, and don't pollute the ma's.

[DamnedRen]

i been saying it for years THE DA NEEDS MODS

IMHO the only time a mod might needed in the DA is to stop interferrence with a couple of guys dueling that don't want to nor should be expected to school the perp on arena etiquitte. Perp...lol
As fas as, pond sc...dueling bango....the dueling lake goes...it's an FFA and everyone seems to know it and play the horde way. No biggie there.

Ren

[TwentyFo]

I spent some time in the DA today at the furball area. Anyone who knows me knows my aim is terrible. I got tired of shooting AI in the off-line mission and thought if I hit furball lake a bit I could practice my shooting.

To understand my point of view, I understand a furball as a free for all. Twist and turn, fight till dead and grab a new plane and come back. I did have a couple of good fights, 5 minutes of fun (lost one won one) out of over an hour. The rest of the time was nothing but HOs, runnning, and cherry pickers from high alt. A poor place to practice, lesson learned.

The problem is the new guys who are just getting started end up there and are being taught that this is how the game is played. I saw one guy in there today that was so excited about his first kill....which he died trying to get, but even so was ecstatic at the kill. I called one guy out for running home in his temp so he could land his 2 kills  His excuse was he was out of ammo, big deal fight it out! that's what the arena is suppose to be about. I'll give you a fight even if I only have half a wing, I can learn from that, everyone knows how to run. While trying to get my point across one of those cherrypickers (707200) decided to butt in and defend that "style" of play. By the time I left, the new guy who was so pumped about his first kill was getting instrution on how to get more.... stay fast and pick guys off of other planes and so on. Another one lost to the stupidity that is allow to fester in that swamp.

Its sad when you can't even get a fight in the DA any more, and now we have the new "trainees" learning this crap from this pond scum. "Yee Hahh!"

I blame the rain.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NwrL9MV6jSk

[Shuffler]

I think any more HELP files and books and manuals are a waste of time. The problem now is the folks who want to start out on top. They don't read anything. Anyone can get most anything they need now by reading... from basics to advanced. Then they would be easy to fine tune.

[kvuo75]

IMHO the only time a mod might needed in the DA is to stop interferrence with a couple of guys dueling that don't want to nor should be expected to school the perp on arena etiquitte. Perp...lol
Ren

indeed. our squad has duel training way off in the death canyon bases every week... last sunday we had 2 different interlopers at different times come thru and engage us... very frickin annoying..IIRC one of them responded to our pleas to not join in, but one had to be "corrected". LOL

[Lye-El]

 You know, the new guys that keep getting told to go to the Training Arena by all these hot sticks.  Oh wait!  Maybe we should be telling the new players to join a squad that has an arrangement  with a trainer.

Quite often, once they figure out how to take off they just want to buzz around and shoot at people. They can't shoot anybody down in the TA so they leave. They don't want to learn how to fight their aircraft. Point 'n Shoot. Pick, Vulch, HO, fly with the Horde. I see them not being able to get off the runway in the TA and an hour later see them in the MA.

[Tr1gg22]

You may enjoy wallowing around in filth, but most of us don't think the new generation should be brought up in it.

same old game, same old people, same old complaints

[Tr1gg22]

same old game, same old people, same old complaints

[The Fugitive]

Need to push the post count up huh.... quote your own post 

[Stang]

Aren't you one of the squeakies in question here?