Oh how I hate the 190's

[crazyivan]

Only thing I got on the Dora is when hes got 5-10k advantage  does his loop misses. Then runs like the wind. 5mins  later RTB some spit16 jumps ya fine saw that comin. Having a good 1 with him about 2 mins its gone to the deck. Having fun doing scissors its about equal. And the Dora comes back after his daily strole to pick my ki. Yes it's all about the pil-et.  Could it have been a pony instead  probably. My Ill attempt at making a point is some people could give a hoot.

[Krusty]

I see more 152 picking, HOin, and running because they can't do anything else. What they DO have is about 100mph more than the 190A models lol.

Yes I see a lotta 190as HOing, but most often folks are field porking with them. A lot of times when I see them dogfighting they actually have to fight because they can't run away. A lot more than almost every 152 I've ever run across, at any rate.

[Yenny]

Any good BnZmer that can aim will put .5 sec burst on a target, and it will go down. The folks that haven't master the angles and the deflections are the one that you often see them passing you and then break it off. Those that had mastered it, you won't see em coming and you won't feel em til you are back at the tower =)

[Vuokko]

I regularly take out a 190a8, not an a5, low and slow against the horde of spits, f4us and the like from cvs.

And you are not too good in it.

[MjTalon]

Any good BnZmer that can aim will put .5 sec burst on a target, and it will go down. The folks that haven't master the angles and the deflections are the one that you often see them passing you and then break it off. Those that had mastered it, you won't see em coming and you won't feel em til you are back at the tower =)

Agreed. I fly the A5 model since it's the dogfighter of the series and if you ask anyone that has faced my A5 a couple months ago, they will tell ya i always engage in Co alt/ 1v1 engagements. 

[Ack-Ack]

What is really funny about this thread, you guys are blaming the plane for a pilot's fighting style.  The pilots you're complaining about in the Dora will do the same thing no matter what plane they fly.  In cases of dweebish and timid behavior it's definitely the pilot and not the plane.


ack-ack

[Yenny]

QQ i wish i can play =)

[xxIENAxx]

First of all....most aircraft were designed except for very few To E fight.

Example.  The US did not design the F6F hell cat or F4U, or F4F to turn fight with the Japanese Zero or Oscar.

The same withthe P38.  They were given speed, firepower and durability.  Couldn't climb with a Zeke or an Oscar.

In the ETO the USAF had the P38, P47 and later the P51.  They were not designed to stall fight or turn fight at 500 feet.

They were designed to fly just a bit higher to escort Bombers.

Now....the aircraft in question the FW190.  It wasn't designed to turn fight either.  It was designed to counter the SpitV.

It was designed to be fast, roll well, dive fast and be durable.  It was used to BnZ bombers and mix it up at escort altitude

with the Allies escort fighters.  The 190 was given heavy firepower for attacking bombers and the escort that got in the way.

This post has nothing to do with the History of the aircraft and on its' original use.

This is a reflection of gameplay and of cartoon aircraft in the game.

Since there are actually simmers playing this game if in a 190 I would use the attributes of my aircraft against any

deficiency of the opposing aircraft.  Fight my fight and not fight into the others strengths.  The idea is to win the fight.

There are also players in game that wish you to turnfight them because they are in a superior turning and climbing aircraft.

They will bait you etc. and maybe even call your integrity into question.

So if you up in a Zero,Spitfire etc don't get angry if you see a 190 around contolling the fight with Energy.

That is what the 190 was designed for....not to play the game your way because you are in a slower turnfighter.  

+1

[diaster]

Heres one for ya. 190a8 and i shot down this spit that hoed me, not to mention just as he turns in, he become a rubber band and is warping all over. Later he tries to to pick me on the runway, but i noe and got away. then i chased him noe all the way back to his base. He turns and hoes on me again. By a miracle we dodge around all over the place and finally out of fuel i turn for home, he pursues. with no engine (280k) all my turns are very smooth but I try to be unpredictable. At the last minute i see his guns light up, i pull up and drop flaps and he zooms by, slowley below me. Pull out flaps and nose down for one snap shot before i stall and I cut him in half, dead stick. So a 190a8 against a spit 16 on the deck... guys it ain't the plane, its the pilot, a better pilot would have closed and drilled me while he had the chance!

Here is a great idea. Put your egos on the shelf and accept that sometimes you are the hunted and the hunter, get over. people will fly all kinds of stuff, fly their style, not yours. Dead id dead no matter how they do it, they beat you and you are dead-they are not, get over it! Reup and go show them your uber skillz again lol

[A8TOOL]

You are few and far between. {SALUTE} but get over yourself. Spring is here and you'll find many new comers to the game that ho on a constant basis, bail out of bombers, cheat in any way they can and climb to 25 k only to auger on the way down running from you.

Just the way it is this time of year.

Good Job anyway : ) 

[DREDIOCK]

I do get scared when I see an A5 but I been flying the Dora alil bit getting like 4-5 kills a sortie and you really can control a furball with one. Unless there is a con alot higher then you your gunna be able to outclimb most of the planes that are close to your speed, once you get them worked down lower then its shooting fish in a barrel. If someone does gets some E on me Ill rope them up then turn to make them flip themself over I love seeing people waist E upside down trying to make a 600+ shot.

Spiraling climb works well too. Even against a spit.
Love taking em round and round on the way up till your see their wings wobble knowing they must be frustrated as hell cause your jusst out of guns solution

[BlauK]

I see more 152 picking, HOin, and running because they can't do anything else. What they DO have is about 100mph more than the 190A models lol.

Yes I see a lotta 190as HOing....

That is difficult to believe.
I believe that there are lots of 190s trying to shoot at their more maneuverable enemies who often turn back to HO the 190s. The 190s are fast and hard to turn in that situation, thus they cannot often avoid the HO caused by the enemy.

Fundamental difference in perceiving what an HO is and how it happens

[Clone155]

I love the 190 A8, I sniped a guy 1000 out with it today 

[StokesAk]

Nice

[Cajunn]

Any time we have a post like this I go and fly the plane just to see, well I have been flying the 190 D a couple of days and my thoughts on the bird........ Its not a turner (and I'm sure everyone knew this already), you really can't get slow with it because under 250 mph it suffers because it has no defense except the role and you can only get away with that for so long. It's a vertical fighter and it really shines in that role (IMO one of the best in the game). I find it a lot  like the mustang in many ways, you have to keep the speed up because that seems to be its best defense. In the last 2 days I have gotten 35 kills in it with only losing 10, so it is a very capable fighter and speed is its name. I have had the thing over 500 and I had a squady along for the ride and he said it was near 550 and no compression issues at all. And even at that speed the thing roles like mad, and that F4U driver probably still doesn't know what killed him because it was over fast. So in the BnZ its probably the best in the game because of the 500 rounds of 20mm.....just my opinion, I think I'm going to fly it for a while