Il-2 and Il-10 capabilities and performance

[vfGHOSTY]

I wish that I could have some books or anything that have any info in regard to IL-10 having 4 23mm cannons. Still so far all I see is either 2xNS or more common 2 x VY. Comparing to tons of info on the ordinary prototype planes that existed in quantity of 1 to a few brief specs on the IL-10 that has been build in quintities of thousands I find that total BS. Doesnt make sence for me  

Anyway thank you very much Tony for your post.


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[Seeker]

This any help?
 http://hep2.physics.arizona.edu/~savin/ram/il-10.html

or
 http://www.nitro.co.za/warbirds/soviet.html

or
 http://www.nitro.co.za/warbirds/pyrosplanes.html

or
 http://www.russian.ee/~star/air/russia/il-10.html

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[vfGHOSTY]

I looked at all this web sites for the past few days. Among the many others   But... As I said b4r all sources point for IL-10 to have either VY or NS cannons in quintity of two, not 4. That is the problem since I have a lot of blue prints with easy reading 4 x 23 mm cannons  

Thanks anyway

Regards

[Jochen]

Up!

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[Widewing]

 

Originally posted by Jochen:
Wow, over 300 mph in deck... It would be quite difficult to kill, you are undergunned and underarmored in head on attack and you cannot evade rear firing heavy MG because this plane will surely fly as low as possible!

I would think top and side attacks could be effective and once it has bleed energy and got slow, it wouldnt accelerate as good as dedicated fighter. Also must remember drag from external store like bombs and rockets, they can easily take some 20-30 mph from top speed.

Quite a plane!

If you want to know exactly how the IL-10 performed against late war propeller driven fighters, you need only examine its record in Korea. Simply said, they were butchered by the F-51, F-82 and F4U-4. Yaks and Lovochkins fared little better. Of course, when faced with the F-80C, things went from bad to worse very quickly.

See  http://home.att.net/~Historyworld/IL-10.html

   

My regards,

Widewing


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[Staga]

This info is collected around; Not sure if 100% right.

                                                                                                                                                                                                       
                   Bomb load               Armament                                       Serv.Ceiling              speed                             Range                          
Il-2m3         Max 1000kg                                                                                                                                                                                
                   6*100kg or                2*23mm (150rounds/each) or               6360m              410kmh / 1500m                   765km                          
                   2*250kg                    2*37mm (32 rounds/each)                                                                                                                          
                 +4*132mm rockets     +2*7,62                                                                                                                                                      
              or  8*82mm rockets      +rear 12,7mm(150rounds)                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                                                                                                   
Ju-87D7     Max 1800kg                2*20mm                                               7320m              400kmh / 5800m            800km/ ext.tanks1500km    
               5 Hardpoints :             +rear 2*7,9mm                                                                                                                                            
               1 Center (Max1800)                                                                                                                                                                        
               4 in wings :                                                                                                                                                                                      
               4*50/2*250/2*500                                                                                                                                                                              

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[Karnak]

Staga,
As I understand it, the Il2-M3 had the capability to carry a whole gob of bomblets and also, more particularly, 37mm high velocity cannon.

HTC did mention that a new Allied 37mm cannon was coming...

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[StormFB]

IL10
Engine AM42, TO power 2000 hp
Wing area 30sqm
Empty Weight 4680kg
TO Weight 6535kg
Bomb and Ammo load 1855kg
Wingloading 145 kg/sqm
Powerloading 3.6 kg/hp
Speed at sea level 507km/h
Speed at 2.8km  551km/h
Landing speed 148km/h
Time to 5km  9.7min
Service ceiling 7250m
TO Run 475m
Landing Run 460m


As for cannons, IL10 carried 4 23mm (NR or Vya) with 300 rounds each.
Btw even IL2 had some interesting field modifications: backward firing grenade launcher, 32xRS82 rockets, etc.

[Glasses]

More Red food for my 109 yum yum.

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[Staga]

Heheh... New HO-master is coming to town