With this MB, CPU what Vid card would you get?

[TilDeath]

Tildeath, what happens if you use a 32bit OS with 6 gigs of DDR3? Will it be able to operate?

Yes, all my i7s have 6 gig some 32 and some 64bit

[Getback]

Yes, all my i7s have 6 gig some 32 and some 64bit

ah rgr, I thought maybe it might but still, I wondered because of the new type of memory and the fact it linked over 3 slots.

So, any testing on which OS, 32 or 64, is better under that arrangement?

Forgive me, but I love to pick brains.

[TilDeath]

ah rgr, I thought maybe it might but still, I wondered because of the new type of memory and the fact it linked over 3 slots.

So, any testing on which OS, 32 or 64, is better under that arrangement?

Forgive me, but I love to pick brains.

nope I didn't.  Don't have the time

[gldnbb]

New here....   

Currently have a DELL XPS 2.8ghz, 512mb ram  ATI Radeon 9800.  It's an older machine and can't afford to upgrade much so thought to start with buying ram.

How much RAM is sufficient to make in-flight fighting smooth?

Sorry, I posted in this thread since it is semi-relevant.

Thanks,

[BaldEagl]

New here....   

Currently have a DELL XPS 2.8ghz, 512mb ram  ATI Radeon 9800.  It's an older machine and can't afford to upgrade much so thought to start with buying ram.

How much RAM is sufficient to make in-flight fighting smooth?

Sorry, I posted in this thread since it is semi-relevant.

Thanks,

Assuming you're running XP or Vista put in 2 Gb.  If you're running 98 or 98SE they don't really like more than 512 Mb.

You might also be able to turn up the video aperture in the BIOS which will add some virtual memory to your video card.

[gldnbb]

Assuming you're running XP or Vista put in 2 Gb.  If you're running 98 or 98SE they don't really like more than 512 Mb.

You might also be able to turn up the video aperture in the BIOS which will add some virtual memory to your video card.

XP.. . Sweet, I'll google the video aperture thing to learn more.  And buy that much more ram

[BaldEagl]

XP.. . Sweet, I'll google the video aperture thing to learn more.  And buy that much more ram

If you have DDR2 RAM you'll want to buy it in matched pairs to maintain dual channel speeds.  If it's SDRAM then it won't matter.

[gldnbb]

Got to the store today,  brought along one of my memory sticks,  found out it was DDR,  not DDR2.
Oh well,  upgraded anyway to 3 gigs new (same manufacturer but bought 2 gig in one pack  and the 1 gig in a single pack)  + 256 mb old    at 400mhz (best speed for DDR)...    Thats 3.256 gigs   vs.  512 mb...

Just flew through a plethora of offline B17s  with the 190 squad   and was able to get hits,   not bad frame hit,   at absolute worst was at 17 fps.    At most  84 fps..

I think that will do..  It has to... Will still look at the aperture thing.


Thanks guys <S>

[Charge]

"Oh well,  upgraded anyway to 3 gigs new (same manufacturer but bought 2 gig in one pack  and the 1 gig in a single pack)  + 256 mb old"

That means you probably do not have dual-channeling enabled which effectively drops your memory bandwidth in half. It is possible that installing that 2Gb and 1Gb in separate banks you may still be able to enable dual-channeling, but you need to dump the 256Mb stick, it does not any good in there anyway.

"If the motherboard has two pairs of differently colored DIMM sockets (the colors indicate which bank they belong to, bank 0 or bank 1), then one can place a matched pair of memory modules in bank 0, but a different-capacity pair of modules in bank 1, as long as they are of the same speed."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dual-channel_architecture

-C+

[gldnbb]

"Oh well,  upgraded anyway to 3 gigs new (same manufacturer but bought 2 gig in one pack  and the 1 gig in a single pack)  + 256 mb old"

That means you probably do not have dual-channeling enabled which effectively drops your memory bandwidth in half. It is possible that installing that 2Gb and 1Gb in separate banks you may still be able to enable dual-channeling, but you need to dump the 256Mb stick, it does not any good in there anyway.

"If the motherboard has two pairs of differently colored DIMM sockets (the colors indicate which bank they belong to, bank 0 or bank 1), then one can place a matched pair of memory modules in bank 0, but a different-capacity pair of modules in bank 1, as long as they are of the same speed."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dual-channel_architecture

-C+

Ill try dumping the 256...    I have 4 sockets,  two are biege locking slots, two are black locking slots.  The biege is where the original 256 + 256 mb sticks were  in 'channel b'.    So I have placed 1gig + 1 gig respectively purchased from one package.   Lastly, I placed a 1 gig purchased in a separate package into one of the remaining black locking slots.

[BaldEagl]

I have 4 sockets,  two are biege locking slots, two are black locking slots.

You DO have DDR2 memory then.  You need to have matched pairs of memory in the matched color coded slots or you lose half your memory bandwidth.  At this pont you'd be better off with the two new 1 Gb sticks in the matched color coded slots (both black or both beige slots) closest to the CPU and the two 256's in the other two slots.  That depends slightly on the memory's cas latency which will default to match the slowest stick but even if one set is slower you're losing much much more by not running in dual channel mode.

If the 256 sticks have a higher cas latency than the new 1 Gb sticks you might even be better off to leave them out entirely.

Your system will only see a Maximum of 3.25-3.75 Gb of RAM (32 bit limitation) and no single application will be allowed to access more than 2 Gb of RAM anyway so you really wouldn't lose anything.

Test it and see what happens.

[gldnbb]

You DO have DDR2 memory then.  You need to have matched pairs of memory in the matched color coded slots or you lose half your memory bandwidth.  At this pont you'd be better off with the two new 1 Gb sticks in the matched color coded slots (both black or both beige slots) closest to the CPU and the two 256's in the other two slots.  That depends slightly on the memory's cas latency which will default to match the slowest stick but even if one set is slower you're losing much much more by not running in dual channel mode.

If the 256 sticks have a higher cas latency than the new 1 Gb sticks you might even be better off to leave them out entirely.

Your system will only see a Maximum of 3.25-3.75 Gb of RAM (32 bit limitation) and no single application will be allowed to access more than 2 Gb of RAM anyway so you really wouldn't lose anything.

Test it and see what happens.

I'm confused more than ever.   The guy at the store told me was each gold pin on the original 256mb card are twice as big as DDR2,  therefore the smaller DDR2 pins will not line up if I place them into my board. Physically it is impossible I was told.  So what you are saying is my motherboard support both DDR and DDR2???  Is that physically possible?  Only the DDR memories at different GB  match my gold pins.  If I buy the DDR2s, I was told the sticks will not work.

As for the 4 bays, 
2 Gray slots -  there is 1gb newly installed each x2 = 2gb memory which came from ONE LARGER package (Centon corporation).
1 Black Slot -  There is 1 gb newly installed = 1gb memory coming from ONE SMALLER package (Centon Corporation) 
1 Black Slot -  There is/was  256 old installed 256 memory.

Total slots used = 4

I don't want to take back the new 3gb sticks unless absolutely sure....

Except for today when I took out the 256mb..

[gldnbb]

Update:

I opened the CPU case, took a picture of the memory slot and counted each pin hole where the contact points of the DDR memory meet up.

Motherboard 52 + 40 pin holes...    DDR stick 52 + 40 gold contact tips....  They match up

I'm more afraid to get the DDR2's because the contact points are twice as thin and twice as numerous and won't meet up with the motherboard slots.

Correct?

[BaldEagl]

OK.  Sounds like you got the right stuff then and that pairing the memory won't matter.  DDR is 184 pin.  DDR2 is 240 pin and they are keyed differently so they can't be put in each other's slots.

Most motherboards with color coded slots are DDR2 which is what threw me off.

[gldnbb]

Thanks!   Well,  it is unfortunate I can't have the best 'bling'  but at least it's not 512mb ....

Ok onto the next steps elsewhere to optimize performance.... Probably will turn off ground clutter next now that I boosted  aperture to 256mb..   Didn't want to boost to 32mb since some website said it would take away from other system resources.  Only to be used if any 'game' experiences stutters.

OK, getting real close to flying online