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Offline Angus

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Re: Using frying oil for diesel engines
« Reply #15 on: April 24, 2009, 04:12:50 AM »
Sik1:
"If you had your heart set on running svo an older mechanical pumped engine would be way more desireable than an electronically controlled engine.""
Yup, it's old, just mechanical and seems to be very tolerant. One engine in the country of the same brand has been running for quite a while with no trouble. On pure oil by the way.
What's Lard?
Quote from: boxboy28 on April 23, 2009, 07:53:45 PM
GO GREEN     :rock


the best part of it all is it spits out way more pollutants .............. GO GREEN
As it is right now, it either gets burned or simply dumped. I think your equation is wrong....
As for the price, for me, AFAIK free... Would cut my fuel bill by 50-100%
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Re: Using frying oil for diesel engines
« Reply #16 on: April 24, 2009, 08:25:19 AM »
Angus...
Google BioDiesel, or check here http://www.biodiesel.org/

Cheers
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Re: Using frying oil for diesel engines
« Reply #17 on: April 24, 2009, 10:31:51 AM »
Quote from: eagl on April 23, 2009, 05:40:44 PM
Isn't that the guy who the govt sent a bill for auto fuel taxes, plus a fine for not paying them when the fuel was produced?  Last I heard, the guy who got the bill wasn't having any luck getting a waiver.


could be, its been awhile since I read or saw it.   Didnt the govt try to fine Willie Nelson over bio fuels?

btw been meaning to tell you my son is at Sheppard now, tech school for avionics, he goes to Cannon in July
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Re: Using frying oil for diesel engines
« Reply #18 on: April 24, 2009, 10:50:28 AM »
Just to be clear. Bio-diesel and SVO are not the same thing.

Angus mechanical pumped engines are much more tolerant of varying fuel quality than electronic ones.

Lard is animal fat, the oil you use can contain no animal fat, it has to be 100% vegetable. Animal fat can be used to make bio , but it is a more complex process.

Boxboy you are incorrect bio and svo are both cleaner than dino diesel. There is no sulphur emissions, CO is greatly reduced, as are hydrocarbons. Particulate in the exhaust is significantly reduced, and it's made from a renewable resource. So how is it more of a pollutant than dino?

Check it out here, they even have a link to the EPA study on bio.
http://www.biodiesel.org/pdf_files/fuelfactsheets/emissions.PDF
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Re: Using frying oil for diesel engines
« Reply #19 on: April 24, 2009, 10:58:11 AM »
Angus just for my own curiosity, what do you want to use this engine for? Is it going to be used for transportation, or as a stationary engine like a generator, or on a piece of machinery like a tractor?
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Re: Using frying oil for diesel engines
« Reply #20 on: April 24, 2009, 04:37:17 PM »
Thank you guys!
It's my little tractor for starters, for light jobs like picking up round-bales, pulling light harrows or wagons etc. All within the farmland, or more like 90%. I have a project installing another one for about the same, that is the Zetor. The Zetor is crude, but surprisingly reliable.
These are 47 hp engines. Pretty simple all together, but continuous light use (sometimes heavier but never intensive) will suck up nice amounts of expensive fuel.
There is quite some running using very little power, and just some 1800 RPM at most.
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Re: Using frying oil for diesel engines
« Reply #21 on: April 24, 2009, 11:39:41 PM »
Quote from: Airscrew on April 24, 2009, 10:31:51 AM
could be, its been awhile since I read or saw it.   Didnt the govt try to fine Willie Nelson over bio fuels?

btw been meaning to tell you my son is at Sheppard now, tech school for avionics, he goes to Cannon in July

Dunno about Willie Nelson...  I thought he only got in trouble over pot, but that was a while ago.

Congrats to your son on making it to tech school!  I hope he manages to keep focused on his training.  There are lots of trainees at Sheppard, meaning there are lots of excuses and opportunities to do something dumb.

Some things to not do at Sheppard while at tech school:
Don't get some girl pregnant
Don't get married
Don't buy a new car
Don't buy a new motorcycle
Don't assault the security forces troops
Don't murder an enlisted girl in the dorms
Don't do drugs and then assault the cop who catches you, even if the crowd cheers you on
Don't participate in the dorm orgies
Don't go to the off-limits clubs even during a weeknight when you're SURE nobody is watching
Don't drink and drive
Don't drink if you're underage
Don't drink underage and then drive on base
Don't drink underage on base and then try to drive off base
Don't drink underage, drive off base, then try to drive back on base to pick up another drunk underage airman

As I said, I hope he keeps focused :)

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Re: Using frying oil for diesel engines
« Reply #22 on: April 25, 2009, 12:17:42 AM »
Quote from: eagl on April 24, 2009, 11:39:41 PM

Don't murder an enlisted girl in the dorms


 :huh :O :huh
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Re: Using frying oil for diesel engines
« Reply #23 on: April 25, 2009, 02:26:51 AM »
Quote from: eagl on April 24, 2009, 11:39:41 PM
Dunno about Willie Nelson...  I thought he only got in trouble over pot, but that was a while ago.

Congrats to your son on making it to tech school!  I hope he manages to keep focused on his training.  There are lots of trainees at Sheppard, meaning there are lots of excuses and opportunities to do something dumb.

Some things to not do at Sheppard while at tech school:
Don't get some girl pregnant
Don't get married
Don't buy a new car
Don't buy a new motorcycle
Don't assault the security forces troops
Don't murder an enlisted girl in the dorms
Don't do drugs and then assault the cop who catches you, even if the crowd cheers you on
Don't participate in the dorm orgies
Don't go to the off-limits clubs even during a weeknight when you're SURE nobody is watching
Don't drink and drive
Don't drink if you're underage
Don't drink underage and then drive on base
Don't drink underage on base and then try to drive off base
Don't drink underage, drive off base, then try to drive back on base to pick up another drunk underage airman

As I said, I hope he keeps focused :)



Umm Eagler was that like a checklist of past mistakes or.. ?  :O :aok
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Re: Using frying oil for diesel engines
« Reply #24 on: April 25, 2009, 04:38:41 PM »
Checked out the nearest burger place today.
Turns out that the guy who is in charge already has had his car running on the stuff for quite a while.
He filters it through cotton and mixes 50% with mineral oil (not sure if I have the right word, but it smells like jet fuel if you know what I mean).
No problems at all so far...
He is ready to team up for gather and processing. Nice guy ;)
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Re: Using frying oil for diesel engines
« Reply #25 on: April 25, 2009, 08:24:49 PM »
Good luck Angus. :aok

Let us know how you make out.
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Re: Using frying oil for diesel engines
« Reply #26 on: April 26, 2009, 02:09:24 AM »
Will do ;)
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Re: Using frying oil for diesel engines
« Reply #27 on: April 29, 2009, 07:10:39 PM »
http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel.html

read this, has several pages of info for DIY biodiesel. read everything.

keep in mind some of the stuff you need are dangerous, heed all warnings and such.

poisonous, flammable possibly explosive, corrosive, etc. be safe and use protective equipment and do it all in a secure area safely away from anything you might not want to lose due to fire, explosions, etc.
 
when safely done it can be rewarding, just be aware of the dangers.

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Re: Using frying oil for diesel engines
« Reply #28 on: April 30, 2009, 10:34:50 AM »
A little update.
I will be getting my first 100 litres or so at the end of next week. I will then both follow the recipe from top gear and instantly try out a cocktail which I have in mind.
Until then, I am going to be testing out some ways to filter the oil. Just need a pint for that ;)
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Re: Using frying oil for diesel engines
« Reply #29 on: May 20, 2009, 04:21:40 AM »
Hello all.
Started running an engine on my cocktail of oils yesterday.
It's well filtered frying oil mixed with diesel and mineral oil(petroleum diesel, - not sure of the english word but it smells like kerosene)
Runs fine, starts fine, and the exhaust smells a tad like KFC.

So far so good. I'll keep you guys updated, and as soon as I find the time, I will give my formula ;)
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