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Offline juice

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P39Q eny/P38L eny
« on: April 27, 2009, 05:16:47 PM »
can someone please tell me why the P39Q and the P38L have the same eny? i don't understand...
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Offline AWwrgwy

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Re: P39Q eny/P38L eny
« Reply #1 on: April 27, 2009, 05:28:33 PM »
You can't see out of a P-39Q.

P-38L is BIG thus making it easy to shoot.

I don't think you are actually disputing the P-39's ENY value, are you.  (doh!) Unless you think both should be greater (The P-39s that is).

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Re: P39Q eny/P38L eny
« Reply #2 on: April 27, 2009, 06:18:12 PM »
Whats ENY? I just fly the planes I want to, if one gets locked out, I pick another one.
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Re: P39Q eny/P38L eny
« Reply #3 on: April 27, 2009, 07:03:00 PM »
Fight for the low #'s side if you don't want to deal with ENY.
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Re: P39Q eny/P38L eny
« Reply #4 on: April 27, 2009, 07:24:38 PM »
Quote from: The Fugitive on April 27, 2009, 06:18:12 PM
Whats ENY? I just fly the planes I want to, if one gets locked out, I pick another one.

Quote from: StokesAk on April 27, 2009, 07:03:00 PM
Fight for the low #'s side if you don't want to deal with ENY.

Gee...those two stellar replies really do a bang up job in answering the OP's question regarding why the P-39Q and the P-38L have the same ENY.  Anymore insightful answers you want to reveal to us?


Anyway, to answer the OP's question.  My guess would be because of the rarity of the P-39Q-1 we have modeled in the game.  Think there was around 150 or so produced.  At least that's why I would guess it has the same ENY as the P-38L.  HiTech would probably be better able to answer this question though.


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Re: P39Q eny/P38L eny
« Reply #5 on: April 27, 2009, 08:40:32 PM »
I'm not sure "rarity" is necessarily the reason for an ENY of 20 for both planes.

I would suspect (perhaps the OP can verify) that the question is: "If ENY is an indication of a plane's performance, why do these two planes have the same ENY when their performance is quite different."

I could be all wet, though . . .

But assuming I am not, one must understand that ENY is basically set in increments of 5 (a few oddities like the 8 ENY 51D notwithstanding) leaving you only 8 levels (5 through 40) at which to put all the planes in the planeset.  So, you will have planes with the same ENY that will be very different in performance.

Based on your flying style, the 38L might be a "20+" and the P-39Q a "20-", but their positions as 20 ENY planes are relative to the rest of the plane set.  Neither are quite "bad" enough to be ENY 25 or "good" enough to be ENY 15 by whatever measuring stick HTC uses.
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Re: P39Q eny/P38L eny
« Reply #6 on: April 27, 2009, 09:58:27 PM »
Quote from: juice on April 27, 2009, 05:16:47 PM
can someone please tell me why the P39Q and the P38L have the same eny? i don't understand...

I question ever airplane's ENY, for example, why does a Spitfire IX have the same ENY as P39Q, or A6M5, or even the F4F?



BTW here is the ENY list http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/wiki/index.php/Aircraft%2C_Vehicles_and_Boats_in_Main_Arenas
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Re: P39Q eny/P38L eny
« Reply #7 on: April 27, 2009, 10:26:08 PM »
Quote from: Ack-Ack on April 27, 2009, 07:24:38 PM
Gee...those two stellar replies really do a bang up job in answering the OP's question regarding why the P-39Q and the P-38L have the same ENY.  Anymore insightful answers you want to reveal to us?


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Well its a good thing you never posted any smart bellybutton remarks on these boards. You wouldn't have a leg to stand on with that statement!   :D
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Re: P39Q eny/P38L eny
« Reply #8 on: April 28, 2009, 12:59:55 AM »
Quote from: AWwrgwy on April 27, 2009, 05:28:33 PM


P-38L is BIG thus making it easy to shoot.


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I won't say it is easy to shoot.  Yes, it dose have a large area surface but a thin profile.
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Re: P39Q eny/P38L eny
« Reply #9 on: April 28, 2009, 02:13:56 AM »
Quote from: Ack-Ack on April 27, 2009, 07:24:38 PM
Gee...those two stellar replies really do a bang up job in answering the OP's question regarding why the P-39Q and the P-38L have the same ENY.  Anymore insightful answers you want to reveal to us?

ack-ack

^^^ Love it.   :lol


There are so many ENY discrepancies it's not even worth naming them all.  I would think the 39Q should have a 25-30 eny and the 38L to probably be around where it is.  Ultimately though, anything >20 eny very rarely affects restrictions on what you can fly.  Rate of earning perkies is the only real issue here which most would agree is laughably unimportant.
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Re: P39Q eny/P38L eny
« Reply #10 on: April 28, 2009, 03:40:05 AM »
Quote from: The Fugitive on April 27, 2009, 10:26:08 PM

Well its a good thing you never posted any smart bellybutton remarks on these boards. You wouldn't have a leg to stand on with that statement!   :D

Big difference between the typical whine post in these forums and someone with a legitimate question.


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Re: P39Q eny/P38L eny
« Reply #11 on: April 28, 2009, 03:43:18 AM »
Quote from: grizz441 on April 28, 2009, 02:13:56 AM
There are so many ENY discrepancies it's not even worth naming them all.  I would think the 39Q should have a 25-30 eny and the 38L to probably be around where it is.  Ultimately though, anything >20 eny very rarely affects restrictions on what you can fly.  Rate of earning perkies is the only real issue here which most would agree is laughably unimportant.

Is ENY based on performance?  If so, then it's really off the mark with the P-39Q and the P-38L. In no way shape or form is the P-39Q close to the P-38L in terms of performance. 


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Re: P39Q eny/P38L eny
« Reply #12 on: April 28, 2009, 05:52:14 AM »
Quote from: Ack-Ack on April 28, 2009, 03:40:05 AM
Big difference between the typical whine post in these forums and someone with a legitimate question.


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To me the OP sounded like the typical whine.
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Re: P39Q eny/P38L eny
« Reply #13 on: April 28, 2009, 06:47:37 AM »
This is a whine

How is the 109 K4 at 20 eny, same as Spit IX

Damn 109 K4 is near untouchable at all alts

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Re: P39Q eny/P38L eny
« Reply #14 on: April 28, 2009, 06:54:29 AM »
Quote from: wipass on April 28, 2009, 06:47:37 AM
This is a whine

How is the 109 K4 at 20 eny, same as Spit IX

Damn 109 K4 is near untouchable at all alts

wipass

whilst i agree it is an uber ride,  it has 65 taters that are fast firing,  You have to be extremely disciplined to hold fire on most shots until the sights are definately on.  The spits can easily spray with hispano and get lucky.

In a straight up fight what would you rather take a spit 9 or a 109k4??   I know I would go with the Spit 9 and easily beat most k4 pilots.

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