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Offline BaldEagl

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A HO?
« on: May 02, 2009, 10:57:58 AM »
Was online last night for the first time in a week or so and got into a good fight (2 of 3 last night were good one-on-ones) with me in a Spixteen against a Seafire (the other good fight was me in a Temp vs. a Ta-152).

So anyway, this fight had been going on for about 5 minutes.  We ended up slightly seperated and as we both came around I had the opportunity to take a HO shot, which I did.  It's not like it was an opening merge or that we had 1.5K seperation or anything but there was some seperation.

The pilot ended up ditching safely denying me the kill.  He then posted something about HOing on 200 to which I PM'd him my response which lead to a heated exchange of name calling which led to a trip to the DA where we had five really fun fights.  <S> dude... any time you want to do that again let me know.

Now my question is; after 5 minutes of jostling would you have taken the HO shot?

I've always played that after the merge anything goes.
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Re: A HO?
« Reply #1 on: May 02, 2009, 11:10:37 AM »
Probably not.  Especially not if it's an uninterrupted 1:1.  And then there's the blurry line on what is or isn't a HO.  Every fight is different.  You have to strike the right balance between giving and taking to make it a fun fight.. Which is probably what HOing/not HOing boils down to.
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Re: A HO?
« Reply #2 on: May 02, 2009, 11:32:40 AM »
If your dueling 1v1 i think any shooting while head on is lame......


What normmaly happens is both come around for another merge... the guy who breaks first gets a face full and the other guy always says "deflection"...
 
So say technically its not a ho... ITs a dirty way to 1v1.
Its more of lets fly around in circles and play chicken......

The truth is the guy that face shoots only does so out of desperation.....IMO
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Re: A HO?
« Reply #3 on: May 02, 2009, 11:35:01 AM »
If I knew that would be the only advantage I would have that fight, yes (if I was losing the advantage, per say)...but otherwise if the pilot was poorer and I knew I could defeat him later, I would let it go on.
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Re: A HO?
« Reply #4 on: May 02, 2009, 12:08:04 PM »
  After several minutes of a good fight you develop a certain mutual respect for each other(Hopefully).  You know however it ends you will be saluting and saying great fight.  A good fight and and the following mutual <S> salutes is what I enjoy in this game.  I wouldn't want to ruin the salutes by a questionable play especially after 5min. 
  While in the DA did opportunities for HO shot's come up and did you continue to take them?  I couldn't imagine take HO shots at each other at every immelman, the fight would never develop. 
 

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Re: A HO?
« Reply #5 on: May 02, 2009, 12:11:26 PM »
Now my question is; after 5 minutes of jostling would you have taken the HO shot?

Simple answer:  No
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Re: A HO?
« Reply #6 on: May 02, 2009, 12:24:47 PM »
Simple answer:  No

agreed....

If I knew that would be the only advantage I would have that fight, yes (if I was losing the advantage, per say)...but otherwise if the pilot was poorer and I knew I could defeat him later, I would let it go on.

As far as I'm concerned the is NEVER a reason to HO. Sorry Spikes that post was about as lame as you can get.

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Re: A HO?
« Reply #7 on: May 02, 2009, 12:27:15 PM »
If I'm just gonna HO a guy I might as well just level out and let him shoot me while I'm flying straight.
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Re: A HO?
« Reply #8 on: May 02, 2009, 12:28:08 PM »
  While in the DA did opportunities for HO shot's come up and did you continue to take them? 

No although there were some forward deflections.  He accused me of one HO in the DA but what I saw was a top profile and I raked him nose to tail across the top of the fuselage.

The DA fights were fun.  We matched up in Ki-84's, Spit V's, Yak9-T's, FW190A-5's and Ki-61's.  I won 3 and augered on the other 2 but they were all good long fights except the Ki-61's where I blacked out early trying to pull hard to avoid a canyon wall.
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Re: A HO?
« Reply #9 on: May 02, 2009, 12:38:37 PM »

Now my question is; after 5 minutes of jostling would you have taken the HO shot?

I've always played that after the merge anything goes.

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Re: A HO?
« Reply #10 on: May 02, 2009, 02:12:27 PM »
Yer a HO. all the excuses in the world won't change it.

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Re: A HO?
« Reply #11 on: May 02, 2009, 03:42:48 PM »
If I have a HO opportunity usually means they have one too.  I for some reason have horrible luck and lose.  So i avoid HOs for my sake not his...
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Re: A HO?
« Reply #12 on: May 03, 2009, 12:42:34 AM »
I've learned the hard way, anytime your in a fight and you end up "in maneuvering" nose to nose take the shot because if you don't you will end up on the short end (your opponent will take the shot) of that merge most of the time.  :salute
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Re: A HO?
« Reply #13 on: May 03, 2009, 01:12:00 AM »
  After several minutes of a good fight you develop a certain mutual respect for each other(Hopefully).  You know however it ends you will be saluting and saying great fight.  A good fight and and the following mutual <S> salutes is what I enjoy in this game.  I wouldn't want to ruin the salutes by a questionable play especially after 5min. 
  While in the DA did opportunities for HO shot's come up and did you continue to take them?  I couldn't imagine take HO shots at each other at every immelman, the fight would never develop. 
 
Most fights don't go 5mins, so I wouldn't of taken the shot. But I wouldn't go on 200 crying HO either. 5 min fight should end with a salute.

but I've taken a ho shot before so my hands aren't clean either. Guess its just the fight mode your in.
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Re: A HO?
« Reply #14 on: May 03, 2009, 04:52:07 AM »
Tough tough call. I mean the fog of war and all. I cannot count the times I have tried to avoid the HO, only to expose myself even more to the HO. To me, all in a days gaming.

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