Question about a Horde

[captain1ma]

ya think?!!

[StokesAk]

Game is full of hypocrites.

Yup, when i was playing i was in the occasional NOE misson or following the band wagon for the win for the map, but you don't see me posting things on the boards about it.

[Mace2004]

jeez, they sent all that after 2 planes and an undefended base? actually the US was busy taking Japanese bases, while the Japanese were busy taking US bases. They just sent hordes into undefended bases and always sent 10 zeros to confront a lone p38 as that is the best tactical choice.  On another front, Russia was sneaking German occupied land without resistance, while Germany sat around spawn camping and hording with massive forces. The Germans figured if they could launch gv's into the HQ and kill the dar, they would be able to recover all the bases the Russians milked.  Meanwhile, Hartmann was flying around vulching fields and using his wingmen as bait all day to increase his fighter score.  AH reflects WW2 perfectly, I can really see how this is relevant.

I think you missed the joke.  lol

[MajWoody]

this isn't war, it's a game. It's supposed to be fun, war isn't- neither is being horded.

 

[Delirium]

I don't care what you do; tank, bomb, furball, or some combination of the three. Just be good at what you do and don't take 50 guys to do a job when 10 could of done it and provided a more enjoyable experience for both sides.

[Larry]

Game is full of hypocrites.

Look who's talking! 

[wipass]

I rarely take part in Bish mishuns,

But..... from now on if I can help to create a horde to piss of you whining "elitists"  then I will. I will also encourage anybody else that I can to join the horde. In fact I will create as many 30 aircraft 110 noe missions as I possibly can.

What is it with you bunch of little generals, wanting everyone to play your way or not at all. How dare you criticise a horde, the people in a horde are having fun, they are playing for their fun not yours and don't give a rats donut about your feelings.

Go cry to mommy

wipass

[The Fugitive]

I rarely take part in Bish mishuns,

But..... from now on if I can help to create a horde to piss of you whining "elitists"  then I will. I will also encourage anybody else that I can to join the horde. In fact I will create as many 30 aircraft 110 noe missions as I possibly can.

What is it with you bunch of little generals, wanting everyone to play your way or not at all. How dare you criticise a horde, the people in a horde are having fun, they are playing for their fun not yours and don't give a rats donut about your feelings.

Go cry to mommy

wipass

ahhh spoken like another social misfit who couldn't fight his way out of a wet paper bag without his horde! Bet you make lots of friends.

Lets put it like this, I'll bet ya'll have played Monopoly. Win or loose the  game is suppose to be fun. Wheelin and dealin just having fun with a bunch of friends. Now I'm sure we all know at least one player that takes the game a bit too serious, always works the deals to death getting every possible advantage they can. Plays as tight, or as cut throat a game as they can. This is the one player nobody likes to have in the game. They just suck the fun right out of it. It gets to the point that when people suggest "lets play!" and this person is in the game, most just say nawww, because they know it won't be fun, and after all thats what playing a game is suppose to be about, fun.

Picture the horde as that one player. Why play against the horde? Its not all that much fun. In most cases they are skillless little lemmings so sure you can rack up a big number of kills, but wheres the fun in that? THIS game is suppose to be about combat, and the horde has nothing to do with combat. HTC might as well give us the B29 and a nuke, we could roll bases faster with that !

[wipass]

Lets put it like this, I'll bet ya'll have played Monopoly. Win or loose the  game is suppose to be fun. Wheelin and dealin just having fun with a bunch of friends. Now I'm sure we all know at least one player that takes the game a bit too serious, always works the deals to death getting every possible advantage they can. Plays as tight, or as cut throat a game as they can. This is the one player nobody likes to have in the game. They just suck the fun right out of it. It gets to the point that when people suggest "lets play!" and this person is in the game, most just say nawww, because they know it won't be fun, and after all thats what playing a game is suppose to be about, fun.

Just guessing that you are "that" monopoly player.

What exactly is it that you want other players to do in order that they can help you have more fun ?

wipass

[frank3]

ahhh spoken like another social misfit who couldn't fight his way out of a wet paper bag without his horde! Bet you make lots of friends.

Lets put it like this, I'll bet ya'll have played Monopoly. Win or loose the  game is suppose to be fun. Wheelin and dealin just having fun with a bunch of friends. Now I'm sure we all know at least one player that takes the game a bit too serious, always works the deals to death getting every possible advantage they can. Plays as tight, or as cut throat a game as they can. This is the one player nobody likes to have in the game. They just suck the fun right out of it. It gets to the point that when people suggest "lets play!" and this person is in the game, most just say nawww, because they know it won't be fun, and after all thats what playing a game is suppose to be about, fun.

Picture the horde as that one player. Why play against the horde? Its not all that much fun. In most cases they are skillless little lemmings so sure you can rack up a big number of kills, but wheres the fun in that? THIS game is suppose to be about combat, and the horde has nothing to do with combat. HTC might as well give us the B29 and a nuke, we could roll bases faster with that !

That's abit egocentric IMHO, I don't think you can speak for the other +300 people that are online.
At least not for the +20 players in the horde

[The Fugitive]

Just guessing that you are "that" monopoly player.

What exactly is it that you want other players to do in order that they can help you have more fun ?

wipass

No I'm not THAT player, I just play to have fun, like I said, its a game, its suppose to be fun, other wise why play?

I think the mission leaders should show a little "class", or "common sense" and not build missions bigger than what is needed. 10-12 people is more than enough to take a base.... any base. Should they run a mission, and find a bunch of other hitting the field they are going to, turn off and hit a secondary target, why pile in on top of what there all ready, your just creating a horde. People can still have their fun, run their missions, "play the way they want to!", just don't build a horde. Look at it from the defenders side.... as we all are at time because ALL SIDES create hordes...can you honestly say it is a fun night of "flying" when all you do is get horde after horde hitting you?

[frank3]

In that case I'd like to get back to my original question;

What if you'd announce your horde-mission in advance? This would enable the enemy to set up some defense, and creating for a big dogfight, which sounds rather fun to me.

[wipass]

I think the mission leaders should show a little "class", or "common sense" and not build missions bigger than what is needed. 10-12 people is more than enough to take a base.... any base. Should they run a mission, and find a bunch of other hitting the field they are going to, turn off and hit a secondary target, why pile in on top of what there all ready, your just creating a horde. People can still have their fun, run their missions, "play the way they want to!", just don't build a horde. Look at it from the defenders side.... as we all are at time because ALL SIDES create hordes...can you honestly say it is a fun night of "flying" when all you do is get horde after horde hitting you?

You are wanting people to play your way, you can dress it up any way you want but this is the essence.

What are you missing out on when a "horde" attacks a base you aren't near ? 

Why does it matter to you if they roll over bases ?

Surely you are a furballer and don't care for the "winning the war" people.

Go find a bunch of furballers and furball to your hearts content, either on another part of the map or in the A to A arena.

I fail to see why anyone should change their idea of fun just because it doesn't conform to your idea of fun ? Please explain that one to me.

wipass

perplexed

[Wobbly]

Well I have been in Bish missions when thats been done and still nobody upped.

I'm sure most people have things happen in the game which pish them off - I hate being bombed in TT by Lanc stukas when I'm having GV battles, suicide porkers taking out ord on frontline bases, getting picked by alt monkeys when theres a low level furball, Nits and Rooks ganging Bish on the current map etc etc

But I know that all 3 sides do the same thing, whining on about it wont make any difference, in fact its what the other sides want to see and if you whine, they laugh, so I just find a different part of the map to play on (not a lot of choice for Bish at the moment  ) or log off and do something usefull.

[The Fugitive]

A so Here's my reply to the original post.

The idea isn't to defend against a horde. Why would you WANT to fly in a horde? Honest answers to that question would be..

• Don't have the skills to survive a fight on my own
• can't get any kills unless target is occupied by others
• any defense must be overwhelmed with numbers, due to lack of skill in group
• only way to take bases is with numbers and/or surprise, because group can't fight for it
• group has no one that understands tactics or strategy

As a horde if your one of the last ones into the "fight" what are you fighting? Hangers are down, town is down, and nobody is defending because it isn't fun, so what are you doing, flying circles over the base? WOW !!! that IS fun !

You are wanting people to play your way, you can dress it up any way you want but this is the essence.

What are you missing out on when a "horde" attacks a base you aren't near ? 

Why does it matter to you if they roll over bases ?

Surely you are a furballer and don't care for the "winning the war" people.

Go find a bunch of furballers and furball to your hearts content, either on another part of the map or in the A to A arena.

I fail to see why anyone should change their idea of fun just because it doesn't conform to your idea of fun ? Please explain that one to me.

wipass

perplexed

You guys always fall back on that line... You are wanting people to play your way, you can dress it up any way you want but this is the essence. I don't care how others play, other than a horde and lame game play. The horde is just a bunch of lemmings that will NEVER learn to get better at the game, there is no defending against the horde, hence why they are so successful, and the path of least resistance for the "newer generation". Can you honestly say you LOVE fighting against a horde all night? oh thats right, horde never clash, so seeing you fear stepping outside the horde you won't be able to fight one.  

Players in the horde limit themselves, and limit the potential fun they could be having.  

Well I have been in Bish missions when thats been done and still nobody upped.

I'm sure most people have things happen in the game which pish them off - I hate being bombed in TT by Lanc stukas when I'm having GV battles, suicide porkers taking out ord on frontline bases, getting picked by alt monkeys when theres a low level furball, Nits and Rooks ganging Bish on the current map etc etc

But I know that all 3 sides do the same thing, whining on about it wont make any difference, in fact its what the other sides want to see and if you whine, they laugh, so I just find a different part of the map to play on (not a lot of choice for Bish at the moment  ) or log off and do something usefull.

YES it's a game issue, NOT a "Bish" issue, NOT a "Rook" issue, NOT a "Knight" issue, A GAME issue. just because EVERYONE DOES IT dosen't make it right, you sound like a 12 year old!