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Offline lazydog

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Re: Why I dont tune to 200
« Reply #75 on: May 14, 2009, 10:52:20 AM »
some people should just fly offline sim

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Re: Why I dont tune to 200
« Reply #76 on: May 14, 2009, 11:30:38 AM »
Thanks!  But actually, I haven't flown the IIC in years, I stick with the Hurri I.  By comparison, the IIC is a pig.

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I THINK it might be the other oldman then........as this was within the last year, just before i started flying the 38 o deth.
 i think ingame was oldman22?
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Re: Why I dont tune to 200
« Reply #77 on: May 14, 2009, 11:32:45 AM »
That is not what you said in your post. Hmm if you fly a fighter your reckless in any case. Most all HOs i get  are 3 or more on one. Many time you up and meet 4 cons and all four try to HO right off the bat. Didn't say they hit me... but they do HO and some do get hits.

I think you do not visit the DA much. The only place for a good fight is way away from the lake with individuals that are like minded..... and we don't HO.

Looking at your posts I think your just going on and on changing your thoughts to provoke and your just grasping at straws.

In any case I am done trying to enlighten you.

Like I said I dont get Hoed or ganged but I also dont go charging into a big red Dar on my own. If I see 4 guys I dont rush at them and expect them to fight me one at a time.

Enlighten me  :huh

You mean you can convince me every time I make a mistake I should blame someone else because they didnt fight the way I wanted them to :rolleyes:

Let me enlighten you. Take control of the game and if you dont want to be Hoed , Picked or ganged use situational awareness.

If you get low in enemy territory on your own or in a furball dont expect to be able to control the fight. Dont cry about it on 200, you subjected yourself to a random element and it didnt go your way you dont need to make excuses ;) 
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Re: Why I dont tune to 200
« Reply #78 on: May 14, 2009, 11:35:40 AM »
I think picking as people put it is classic boom and zoom of a powerfull fast plane against a slower turn plane. Its a valid tactic as is anything and when I furball i accept it or fly looking over my shoulder. I think there is allot of skill in picking off several lower planes without falling in with them and losing an advantage for a dissadvantage. Again its only a matter of the perspective of where you are in the fight.

(Not aimed specifically at you Cap 1). I have to say people who complain about it are basically only happy when the game is going their way. Actually if the game went their way all the time they would be bored so why not generally stop the whingeing. Its a nasty noise and anyone doing it just basically sounds un aware or un enlightened. Another example, If you get killed landing 8 kills you should have checked the field was clear if you had no choice about landing its bad luck. Dont start abusing people just shut up and stop being an A HOLE.   

the point i keep trying to make, is that those of us in furballs ENJOY those furballs. we expect to lose our cartoon airplanes. when i look back at some of my films, the way and speed i'm constantly changing views, looks like a nervous crackhead that can;'t decide which way to run.  :rofl

 i think it's pretty certain to say, that none of us in a furball appreciates being picked.

 you tried to say it's good ole bnz? negative on that sir. bnz is going after a conwho's not already engaged, and then bnz'ing him. when you go for anyone already engaged, it's a pick. granted, he should've seen ya comin, but it's a pick nonetheless.

 the above isn't aimed at you in particular yarbles......but pickers in general.
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Re: Why I dont tune to 200
« Reply #79 on: May 14, 2009, 11:37:29 AM »
some people should just fly offline sim

like who?
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Re: Why I dont tune to 200
« Reply #80 on: May 14, 2009, 11:42:36 AM »
the point i keep trying to make, is that those of us in furballs ENJOY those furballs. we expect to lose our cartoon airplanes. when i look back at some of my films, the way and speed i'm constantly changing views, looks like a nervous crackhead that can;'t decide which way to run.  :rofl

 i think it's pretty certain to say, that none of us in a furball appreciates being picked.

 you tried to say it's good ole bnz? negative on that sir. bnz is going after a conwho's not already engaged, and then bnz'ing him. when you go for anyone already engaged, it's a pick. granted, he should've seen ya comin, but it's a pick nonetheless.

 the above isn't aimed at you in particular yarbles......but pickers in general.

Pick is same as Ho its a question of degree of height and speed. A furball by its nature is unpredictable. You cant rely on skill where there is a random element and therfore luck. Many furballers start at the top bnzing and end up at the bottom running. Its essentially fluid. The Picker is the one you didnt see and that is the bnzers skill in action done right he wont be seen. The furball at its most intense is sensory overlaod and so you cant cover every angle. You get killed from you dont know where and "Oh no Ive been picked". If you had seen it coming you would have broke so come on wise up.

How many people have you heard crying about being picked when they werent looking beihind them how many people went head on into the enemy and then cried about being hoed. 

Like I say when people see it for what it is it wont happen to them anymore.     
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Re: Why I dont tune to 200
« Reply #81 on: May 14, 2009, 11:53:51 AM »
Cap just give it up. By yarble's own desription he sits out on the edges looking for victims already engaged or damaged. He does not get in the fight or take chances.

Last night several folks from SAPP, me, Corkyjr, Del, stogey, Kjet, crims and a few others went from 63 to A1 for a fight. Big red darbar there..... perfect for those that are looking for a fight. We came in at about 6k and the cons were up around 10 to 12k. Again perfect for a good fight. Even though the cons outnumbered us 2 to 1 we still prevailed and did not lose one 38. That is what good fights are made of. Sitting out on the edges of a fight they never get to see that end of the game.
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Re: Why I dont tune to 200
« Reply #82 on: May 14, 2009, 11:58:44 AM »
Cap just give it up. By yarble's own desription he sits out on the edges looking for victims already engaged or damaged. He does not get in the fight or take chances.


I get stuck in like anyone else I just dont cry about it on 200 when I get killed. If someone shoots me in the face I expect it, If someone bnz's me I expect it. I attempt not to get in that situation. its not always easy and often takes more skill than i have but I know that for example in a furball its unrealisitic to expect a cold merge and then out fly someone else using ACM without someone else getting involved. I mean come on, come on take some responsibility for your skill level and situational awareness.  ;)   
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Re: Why I dont tune to 200
« Reply #83 on: May 14, 2009, 12:04:07 PM »
Last night several folks from SAPP, me, Corkyjr, Del, stogey, Kjet, crims and a few others went from 63 to A1 for a fight. Big red darbar there..... perfect for those that are looking for a fight. We came in at about 6k and the cons were up around 10 to 12k. Again perfect for a good fight. Even though the cons outnumbered us 2 to 1 we still prevailed and did not lose one 38. That is what good fights are made of. Sitting out on the edges of a fight they never get to see that end of the game.

Yeah good fight because you were able to work together as a team and control the battle. Thats how I fight with my squaddies and they are a bunck of crybabbies too well at least a couple are.

Now listen even if you are on your own and someone get on you with a 4k height advantage and kills you face it you could cry about that and say having a height advantage is cheating. If they have a better plane thats dweebery the list is never ending. You can have a good fight so I hope that sustains yopu when it doesnt go your way and stops you abusing everyone else when you can't hack it because you are low, outnumbered etc. You get into those situations so live with it.     
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Re: Why I dont tune to 200
« Reply #84 on: May 14, 2009, 12:11:18 PM »
Pick is same as Ho its a question of degree of height and speed. A furball by its nature is unpredictable. You cant rely on skill where there is a random element and therfore luck. Many furballers start at the top bnzing and end up at the bottom running. Its essentially fluid. The Picker is the one you didnt see and that is the bnzers skill in action done right he wont be seen. The furball at its most intense is sensory overlaod and so you cant cover every angle. You get killed from you dont know where and "Oh no Ive been picked". If you had seen it coming you would have broke so come on wise up.

How many people have you heard crying about being picked when they werent looking beihind them how many people went head on into the enemy and then cried about being hoed. 

Like I say when people see it for what it is it wont happen to them anymore.     

now see....you seem to not understand furballs. they are fluid to a point, but in any good furball, it may change locations, but generally not alt, as they're usually well below 5k alt. most dedicated furballers don't go in at the top. they fly right into it, pick a can, and go to work(?)

 i've returned many times to furballs, and never had any problems with them being higher.

 as for looking around......in a furball, you're always looking around. quite often we see the vult....eerr...pickers circling above, but we simply continue our fight.

 when i die in a furball, 9 out of 10 times, i know exactly where it came from.
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Re: Why I dont tune to 200
« Reply #85 on: May 14, 2009, 12:13:35 PM »
Cap just give it up. By yarble's own desription he sits out on the edges looking for victims already engaged or damaged. He does not get in the fight or take chances.

Last night several folks from SAPP, me, Corkyjr, Del, stogey, Kjet, crims and a few others went from 63 to A1 for a fight. Big red darbar there..... perfect for those that are looking for a fight. We came in at about 6k and the cons were up around 10 to 12k. Again perfect for a good fight. Even though the cons outnumbered us 2 to 1 we still prevailed and did not lose one 38. That is what good fights are made of. Sitting out on the edges of a fight they never get to see that end of the game.
i wish i coulda been there.....but then you'd have lost at least one 38 in that fight. unfortunatly, i passed out shortly after eating dinner........
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Re: Why I dont tune to 200
« Reply #86 on: May 14, 2009, 12:15:49 PM »
I get stuck in like anyone else I just dont cry about it on 200 when I get killed. If someone shoots me in the face I expect it, If someone bnz's me I expect it. I attempt not to get in that situation. its not always easy and often takes more skill than i have but I know that for example in a furball its unrealisitic to expect a cold merge and then out fly someone else using ACM without someone else getting involved. I mean come on, come on take some responsibility for your skill level and situational awareness.  ;)   

in furballs, we don't expect cold merges, and know that ho's sometimes happen. pickers should stay away though.......or better yet, pickers should drop in, and stay in for the fun.......it's surprising the rush ya get from even a single kill in that rollercosaster of a fight
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Re: Why I dont tune to 200
« Reply #87 on: May 14, 2009, 12:16:27 PM »
Yeah good fight because you were able to work together as a team and control the battle. Thats how I fight with my squaddies and they are a bunck of crybabbies too well at least a couple are.

Now listen even if you are on your own and someone get on you with a 4k height advantage and kills you face it you could cry about that and say having a height advantage is cheating. If they have a better plane thats dweebery the list is never ending. You can have a good fight so I hope that sustains yopu when it doesnt go your way and stops you abusing everyone else when you can't hack it because you are low, outnumbered etc. You get into those situations so live with it.     
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Re: Why I dont tune to 200
« Reply #88 on: May 14, 2009, 12:21:20 PM »

 
 when i die in a furball, 9 out of 10 times, i know exactly where it came from.

So whats your problem?

If you saw the so called picker why didnt you get out the way?

If you didnt why werent you looking?

If the furball gets big enough how can you tell and what do you expect?

I am sorry but all this Furballers and Pickers distinction is to me a huge simplification to deal with the unpredictable. Some people dont need to understand the world in a them and us way, I know it sounds patronising but that is just how it is. Everyone is playing the game in their own way and this need to form gangs and impose on an imagaingary other is just underdeveloped to me.

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I mean Jezus christ "Is there life on Mars" :cry  


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Re: Why I dont tune to 200
« Reply #89 on: May 14, 2009, 12:24:37 PM »
and shuffler who was there in a sea of red on the deck in a plane i never fly.but i do have to say while i was fighting corky all stayed out of the fight  :saluteto all