I appreciate the remedial suggestions on the 109 but I am beyond those ya big sillies
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Will due respect. I mean no insutls here and am only posting what I think about the situation.
If its not your stick..not your stick settings...not your plane....and not your fist...then there is only one thing left.........Your tactics...or "YOU". You have eleminated everything else.
Either one or all of these things are happening to you.
1. You are being out yoyo'ed on the horizontal.
2. You are being out climbed/stall turned on the verticle
3. You are being out rolling scissored.
4. or all of these at once.
It's all a matter of...."the angle of the dangle"
The answer isnt anything "complicated". The solution to your problem lies in the basics.... throttle controll and angles. Ace drivers can make an almost invisible low or high yoyo. When engaged in a turn fight trying to win angles on the horizontal line one can make very shallow to slight low or high yoyo's and cut you off in 1 or 2 turns. These yoyo's are hard to detect. The two circles are being manipulated on an axis. The bandit tilts his circle off angle 5 or 10 degrees. This makes his circle oblique ( the ends of the oval are the yoyo's, the sides are where the gun solutions are). The defender stays in a flat or more circular circle. The attacker can use throttle control to change the shape of the oblique circle and get repeaded shots on the defender as he yoyo's up and down across your rounder circle. From the defenders perspective this looks like an attacker who is sliding from high to low..it often looks like the attacker is struggling or nearly stalling to stay with you when in reality he is in complete control and managing his AOT to you.
BTW..if you spot this tactic it is a great oppurtunity to turn things around into a rolling scissor and get out of his guns.
I use this tactic all the time to "out turn" turny planes in a 109K4. It's not really out turning them but is looks like it when they are looking back at me.
If you have position and sufficient speed you can start with standard low or high yoyo's to force them into harder break turns to bleed more of their E. Now you can close seperation and turn inside with the shallow yoyo and get the ...ownage 100 out..I caught your prettythang$ kill shot.
All the while that pesky spit 5 is thinking....heheh I'm gonna be on his six in two turns....until your chopping his tail off with your prop and spattering brains all over his cockpit....
I really recommend you visit the TA just for a few sorties and get one of the trainers to practice with you. Its always the basics that end up resulting in ownage.
If you can't do properly timed and calculated yoyo's against a turning bandit you won't be able to get any kills in a turn fight. It only get worse the more turns you make. Each one has to be done correctly or he get your six by flat out turning you.
Agent360