A 2 Country Mid War Arena

[AirFlyer]

I must be the only one around here who likes the challenge of messing with the hoard. I can't remember the last time I saw a group of five people and thought "Oh boy, better avoid that!" Jump in and have some fun, and PO the guys trying to roll bases. Hell who knows, you might even find one of those "glorious fights" that so many people talk about like they are legend. Never gonna find it if ya don't attack people though.

[lazydog]

NOPE shuffers right let it fall

[Ack-Ack]

NOPE shuffers right let it fall

No, he's not right at all.  If you want to stop them, fight them.  Defend the bases they are attacking.  If they move off to another base, move on to that base and defend it as well.  This is something that the rest of the arena has to collectively fight it to stop it.  If it doesn't and everyone bails out like you, Shuff and the others, then you're just giving in and letting the squadrons you complain about reign without any resistance.

You're also wrong on the ones you blame.  They aren't the sole reason for the decline as the other countries all have squadrons that behave the same and in some cases act worse and drive out players with their crappy attitude.

ack-ack

[CAP1]

No, he's not right at all.  If you want to stop them, fight them.  Defend the bases they are attacking.  If they move off to another base, move on to that base and defend it as well.  This is something that the rest of the arena has to collectively fight it to stop it.  If it doesn't and everyone bails out like you, Shuff and the others, then you're just giving in and letting the squadrons you complain about reign without any resistance.

You're also wrong on the ones you blame.  They aren't the sole reason for the decline as the other countries all have squadrons that behave the same and in some cases act worse and drive out players with their crappy attitude.

ack-ack

sshh!! 

common sense.

[Lusche]

No, he's not right at all.  If you want to stop them, fight them.  Defend the bases they are attacking.  If they move off to another base, move on to that base and defend it as well.  This is something that the rest of the arena has to collectively fight it to stop it. 

Hmmm I'm not flying MW enough to be able to judge... but if MW starts to follow EW's path, that proposal might be difficult to implement. Very lopsided numbers, like 12 players on one country vs 0-3 on the others each. Now when I started to fight the grab horde they just attacked the other outnumbered country. So I had to switch to fight them again, but they just changed back to their original target and I was stuck on the wrong country. No fight for me, no fight and a lot of base captures for them...

[Delirium]

No, he's not right at all.  If you want to stop them, fight them.  Defend the bases they are attacking.  If they move off to another base, move on to that base and defend it as well. 

My time on AH is very limited lately, do I want to go into the sandbox and deal with that crap or would I rather attempt to find a decent fight in another place?

Heck, I'm almost happy some of the nitwits have confined themselves to flying Tempests in the DA. That is one less self proclaimed and self diagnosing proctologist I have to run into during my short time on AH.

[Ack-Ack]

The problem with the low numbers in Early War is not from the game play that goes on in there, it's from the lack of any real planes in that time period.  If anyone is in a fighter, 9 out of 10 times they'll be in a Hurricane.  The game play is a result of the low numbers, no one was in there to offer any resistance so the 'tards moved in.  I've said it before and I'll say it again, the EW's biggest enemy is the planeset.  Add more EW planes into the mix and you'll see more people come in and then you'll see a population that rivals the Mid War's. 

Mid-War is fortunate because it has by far the most matched plane set of any arena and the population is large enough that it can effectively police itself and have a major influence over the game play.  Because people are leaving instead of sticking around and fighting, the community loses this strength and is too weak to make any sort of impact and the few then dictate the game play.

The SOARs awhile back tried to bring their 'EW game play' into the MW arena and used the same lame style they perfected while milk running in Early War.  Each time they did, they pretty much got trounced and in most cases by a lone defender.  After awhile, they stopped trying and you rarely see more than one or two of them in the arena at any given time and never see anymore of their 'tardesque squadron tactics and timid fighting. 

As Commander Peter Quincy Taggart once said on the bridge of his ship, "Never give up! Never surrender!"


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[Ack-Ack]

My time on AH is very limited lately, do I want to go into the sandbox and deal with that crap or would I rather attempt to find a decent fight in another place?

Heck, I'm almost happy some of the nitwits have confined themselves to flying Tempests in the DA. That is one less self proclaimed and self diagnosing proctologist I have to run into during my short time on AH.

You're also the type of player that doesn't really call any one arena their "home" and usually goes where the fight is.  So whether or not you stick around or move onto another arena isn't really going to change the community dynamic within the Mid War population.  Like a transient population.  For players like Lazydog that did make Mid War their "home" and them leaving because of the game play does affect the Mid War community dynamics by shifting the pendulum in the 'tard behavior zone because there is now one less member of Mid War that will be there to fight.  Soon, it will be empty like the Early War but the only difference is that in the Mid War, the Mid War community let it happen.


ack-ack

[Delirium]

The SOARs awhile back tried to bring their 'EW game play' into the MW arena and used the same lame style they perfected while milk running in Early War.  Each time they did, they pretty much got trounced and in most cases by a lone defender.  After awhile, they stopped trying and you rarely see more than one or two of them in the arena at any given time and never see anymore of their 'tardesque squadron tactics and timid fighting.

That is the big difference between the two of us; you see the community within AH as something you can beat into submission and I do not. Instead, I've found that people are far more maeliable not only when they approach you but also when they are outside the influence of their peers.

Until HTC changes the base gameplay, like implementing 'zone eny', there is little you and I can do about it.

[Ack-Ack]

That is the big difference between the two of us; you see the community within AH as something you can beat into submission and I do not. Instead, I've found that people are far more maeliable not only when they approach you but also when they are outside the influence of their peers.

Until HTC changes the base gameplay, like implementing 'zone eny', there is little you and I can do about it.

I don't see the community as something you can 'beat into submission', I just don't see running away and sticking ones head in the sand as a remedy to whatever game play issues there may be in Mid War.  I also believe that in some cases, like what is happening in Mid War, is something the MW community should resolve on their own instead of turning tail and running off to another arena.


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[lazydog]

trust me i've tried to rally both bish and the rooks to fight the problem and normally what happens i'm left alone trying to fight the horde and the bish and rook go off on the other side of the map and fight each other.heck i've even tried to go into LW to recruit people to help and no would bother.and akak you yourself would even fly the knights when the #'s were high not sure why im not sure and im not going to guess why .all i know is when they pick a field to hit the entire knight roster is in the mission and just a couple defenders well they dont stand a chance while guys like farticus ,alpha81,crossbns,and sometimes even akak (before you quit the game) doing the covering.and the funny thing is guys go into midwar and for a short time the knights are the low #S side because of that they go knights saying they only fly low number side well thats bull too because it never stays that way and well aware of the way MW is that just makes it worst. and the way i see it the only sqaud that goes in there and makes a differance are the class acts.

[CAP1]

trust me i've tried to rally both bish and the rooks to fight the problem and normally what happens i'm left alone trying to fight the horde and the bish and rook go off on the other side of the map and fight each other.heck i've even tried to go into LW to recruit people to help and no would bother.and akak you yourself would even fly the knights when the #'s were high not sure why im not sure and im not going to guess why .all i know is when they pick a field to hit the entire knight roster is in the mission and just a couple defenders well they dont stand a chance while guys like farticus ,alpha81,crossbns,and sometimes even akak (before you quit the game) doing the covering.and the funny thing is guys go into midwar and for a short time the knights are the low #S side because of that they go knights saying they only fly low number side well thats bull too because it never stays that way and well aware of the way MW is that just makes it worst. and the way i see it the only sqaud that goes in there and makes a differance are the class acts.

QUOTE::  My entire 41 man group will go to Mid war with no problem.  Or Axis vs. Allies.  We can't stand the late war arena.

Is there any way to build a culture in the mid-war?  You will have the support of me and all of my guys.  Just tell me what to do.

<S> To all of you trying for this.::END QUOTE


Did you not read this? it's quoted from slyguy

[SlapShot]

hmmm........having the knights consistently roll MW means you consistently have an opponent to attack.

Also, just out of curiosity...whats going to be different in LW blue as opposed to MW...beyond the greater numbers of players?  Same dweebery as always...just lots more of it, going lots faster, and shooting lots more powerful weapons.  But hey.......its all good.

Yes, you do have opponents to attack, but dealing with 5 v 1 on a consistent basis gets old and for me, it's just not that fun.

As pointed out by LazyDog ... the real estate in Blue allows one to move around on the map to find smaller conflicts (away from the horde) and have some decent fights.

[Shuffler]

I went into MW last night. Was a decent fight low by one of our bases for awhile. Then a small squad showed up that takes pride in either Hoing or running. One of the guys in that squad, who is mediocre at best, said on open channel that it is good they were killing the bish 2000 feet off the bish runway so they didn't have so far to fly to the fight.

Some folks, and even whole squads, are afraid of the fight. They Ho or run.

I went to LW and had some fun for the evening. Even though it was TT. It is much better when it is not TT.

[captain1ma]

the midwar is a great place for fights. the number are low and you can usually get some good fights out of the deal. i find it a very fun arena. at times it has its drawbacks and annoyances but for the most part, its a great place. the players in there are top notch and dedicated to having a good time. there are a few players that are less then fun to be around but thats part of the game.

we enjoy playing the lower numbers and thoroughly enjoy tearing up hordes. we try to get people to fight but sometimes they have other ideas, and thats ok too. thats all part of the game.

last night our guys were getting tore up 3 and 4 V 1's , which occationally happens. we managed to spank them a bit and all was good in the midwar.

<S> to all that play the midwar arena. keep up the good work and the fun!