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Offline FireDrgn

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« on: June 02, 2009, 11:15:54 PM »
Did the A6m5 get taken out of the line up in MW?   
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Re: A6m5
« Reply #1 on: June 03, 2009, 12:07:44 AM »
Did the A6m5 get taken out of the line up in MW?   

Nope.  It's still there.



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Re: A6m5
« Reply #2 on: June 03, 2009, 12:12:16 AM »
Nope.  It's still there.



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Though it shouldn't be. We don't really have a mid-war Zero, which would be the A6M3 (Model 22, I believe). Our A6M5 is a 1944 bird. At the very least if the A6M5 is available in Mid War, then the F4U-1A should be as well (last I flew Mid War only the F4U-1 was available).
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Re: A6m5
« Reply #3 on: June 03, 2009, 12:24:41 AM »
Though it shouldn't be. We don't really have a mid-war Zero, which would be the A6M3 (Model 22, I believe). Our A6M5 is a 1944 bird. At the very least if the A6M5 is available in Mid War, then the F4U-1A should be as well (last I flew Mid War only the F4U-1 was available).

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Re: A6m5
« Reply #4 on: June 03, 2009, 11:33:00 AM »
Interesting  Is it map dependant?  It was red the last two times iv been in there..... The a6m2 was available but not the a6m5.

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Re: A6m5
« Reply #5 on: June 03, 2009, 11:35:45 AM »
Interesting  Is it map dependant?  It was red the last two times iv been in there..... The a6m2 was available but not the a6m5.

I hope im not lossing my marbles  my wife would have me comitted..

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Re: A6m5
« Reply #6 on: June 03, 2009, 11:55:05 AM »
Though it shouldn't be. We don't really have a mid-war Zero, which would be the A6M3 (Model 22, I believe). Our A6M5 is a 1944 bird. At the very least if the A6M5 is available in Mid War, then the F4U-1A should be as well (last I flew Mid War only the F4U-1 was available).
The A6M5 was a 1943 fighter, our A6M5b is a 1944 fighter, but other than replacing one 7.7mm machine gun with a 13.2mm machine gun they are the same for AH purposes.
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Re: A6m5
« Reply #7 on: June 03, 2009, 12:10:34 PM »
Either way, the F4U-1A should be in Mid War as well.
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Re: A6m5
« Reply #8 on: June 03, 2009, 12:30:16 PM »
Though it shouldn't be. We don't really have a mid-war Zero, which would be the A6M3 (Model 22, I believe). Our A6M5 is a 1944 bird. At the very least if the A6M5 is available in Mid War, then the F4U-1A should be as well (last I flew Mid War only the F4U-1 was available).
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Re: A6m5
« Reply #9 on: June 03, 2009, 12:49:03 PM »
Either way, the F4U-1A should be in Mid War as well.
Why?  You have a fully competitive F4U in midwar.  Take out the A6M5 and all the Japanese have is the Ki-61, which is also a 1944 version that has greater changes from 1943 Ki-61s than the A6M5b has from the A6M5.  Take that out and all they have is the A6M2.
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Re: A6m5
« Reply #10 on: June 03, 2009, 03:34:23 PM »
I'd bet my money that you saw the glitch that I've reported at least twice and yet to see results on. In Ndisles no team can up A6M5bs from carriers, although they will work from fields. That aside I would love to see the A6M3 Model 22. Would be nice if we got the later production model that used the Type 99 II cannons instead, keep it a bit more competitive.
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Re: A6m5
« Reply #11 on: June 03, 2009, 08:35:20 PM »
Most A6M3s performed very closely to A6M2s. Different engines, clipped wingtips, less gas tankage, and slightly increased ammo (100 rpg??) because it's belt fed rather than drum-fed.

However, pilots didn't like the loss of range, so those tanks were put back in, and they did not favor the loss in lift from clipping the wings. It also had the same type of engine the A6M5 had, but NOT the same performance. It didn't have the revised cowling nor the ejector stubs, nor the 20mph speed boost.

All in all, aside from clipped wing tips and a few more rounds, it's not much different than an A6m2.

I am, however, all for ANYTHING that gives the zeros more ammo!!! That alone is worth adding the M3

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Re: A6m5
« Reply #12 on: June 03, 2009, 09:33:21 PM »
Most A6M3s performed very closely to A6M2s. Different engines, clipped wingtips, less gas tankage, and slightly increased ammo (100 rpg??) because it's belt fed rather than drum-fed.

However, pilots didn't like the loss of range, so those tanks were put back in, and they did not favor the loss in lift from clipping the wings. It also had the same type of engine the A6M5 had, but NOT the same performance. It didn't have the revised cowling nor the ejector stubs, nor the 20mph speed boost.

All in all, aside from clipped wing tips and a few more rounds, it's not much different than an A6m2.

I am, however, all for ANYTHING that gives the zeros more ammo!!! That alone is worth adding the M3

The A6M3 had a faster top speed, dive speed, better roll rate, less maneuverablity and decreased climb rate compared to the A6M2 and in the case of the Model 32, less range than the A6M2.  Don't really so how either model performed close to the A6M2.

The increased ammo in both of the A6M3 models was a result of larger ammo boxes that were added to this version.


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Re: A6m5
« Reply #13 on: June 03, 2009, 09:58:19 PM »
It had a few mph on the M2, but mostly because the removed wingtips. It's really like comparing the Spit8/Spit16 in-game, one had rounded tips, one square, but in the zero comparison the fuel tanks were reverted to normal (pilots didn't like the reduced range) so both ended up having the same range.

The less drag from the wingtips was countered out by the re-addition of the fuel tank, so climb rates were about even as well!


As far as dive speed, I'd have to re-check, but I'm pretty sure they didn't thicken the skin until the M5 model, so stresses and dive tolerances should be fairly close.

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Re: A6m5
« Reply #14 on: June 03, 2009, 10:02:37 PM »
A6M5B is not available on a CV.in MW. my guess is you tried to find it there.