Author Topic: Fix the F4U-1D (warning large imgs) (Read 2688 times)

Zigrat · « **Reply #45 on:** January 11, 2001, 06:34:00 PM »

someone test v max f4u sea level with 2 1k eggs

chart says 290, does aces high show this?

Brigand · « **Reply #46 on:** January 11, 2001, 06:34:00 PM »

Argh...

AHOY MATEYS!

F4UDOA · « **Reply #47 on:** January 11, 2001, 08:37:00 PM »

Zig,

Err, 290mph is at a normal power setting.

It doesn't list military power with that heavy an ordinance load. It's a condition of the game that we run at full power all the time. In real combat they would never fly mil or combat power with 2 1,000lbs bombs.

BTW Zigrat, your excel spreadsheet for climb was dead on the money for the F4U-1D. You have no idea how long I looked for that stupid piece of paper to prove it.

Tac · « **Reply #48 on:** January 12, 2001, 12:42:00 AM »

Cc F4UDOA.. thanks! <S>

Hooligan · « **Reply #49 on:** January 12, 2001, 01:57:00 AM »

Hmmm somebody figured out how to turn on their laptop, eh Brigand?

Hooligan

Hooligan · « **Reply #50 on:** January 12, 2001, 02:06:00 AM »

F4UDOA:

I believe that the F6F is modelled somewhat conservatively. I suspect that if sufficient documentation were uncovered, that the AH F6F performance might get changed to closely match the F6F performance in the comparitive flight test information you have posted on your web page. Any chance you could change your handle to F6FDOA for about 90 days?

Hooligan

F4UDOA · « **Reply #51 on:** January 12, 2001, 08:57:00 AM »

Hooligan,

From my contact with the author of "America's Hundred Thousand" I have some F6F stuff that's pretty interesting. I have a web page but I'm not that good putting stuff up. I'll email it to you and maybe you could throw it on the web.

The data is not test data however. It is the design data for the anticipated performance of the A/C. Pretty neat stuff. It's basically the Grumman FM of there own bird. Very detailed.

As a side note I am talking to a guy at the Vought company. They were purchased by the LTV corporation back in the 60's. Then during the 90's they were purchased by Lockeed/Martin Grumman. Then very recently they were spun back off into....

You got it, Vought. So after all that there is a Vought A/C and they are owned by the same people as Grumman. Pretty weird ehh.

niklas · « **Reply #52 on:** January 12, 2001, 09:41:00 AM »

the only data i know for the F6F is included in the following PDF http://214th.com/ww2/usa/f6f/f6f.pdf

The last pages are almost identical to those of the F4U-4 (not the performance, the layout) so i think it´s also official data.

They didn´t mention wep there? Hellcat didn´t have water-injection ?

niklas

Hooligan · « **Reply #53 on:** January 12, 2001, 09:57:00 AM »

Niklas:

I believe the early F6F-3s were not built with WEP but most had it retrofitted. The -5s were built with WEP.

On the notes page of the document you provided a link to it does list COMBAT power ratings, and these are for WEP.

Hooligan

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Vermillion · « **Reply #54 on:** January 12, 2001, 10:41:00 AM »

Niklas, that document originally comes from the US Navy Military History site at:
http://www.history.navy.mil/branches/org4-8.htm

And yes its official test data.

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