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Offline mechanic

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Re: Video: Royal Marines capture and sink pirate vessel
« Reply #105 on: June 09, 2009, 09:11:47 PM »
The best part being that anyone who found that drifting weapons cache could have claimed salvage rights on the boat and, i assume, the contents.

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Re: Video: Royal Marines capture and sink pirate vessel
« Reply #106 on: June 10, 2009, 07:16:28 AM »
Already been answered, if you can be bothered to read the thread.
Are you kidding, the thread is 105 posts & 7 pages long, I'm not gonna sit there and read the whole thing.
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Re: Video: Royal Marines capture and sink pirate vessel
« Reply #107 on: June 10, 2009, 09:20:41 AM »
Why join a debate so far advanced if you're unwilling to catch up?
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Re: Video: Royal Marines capture and sink pirate vessel
« Reply #108 on: June 10, 2009, 10:47:42 AM »
I"m not gonna spend all day reading an entire thread, if it was just a page or 2 I would, but not when it's 7.

Maybe you have enough free time on your hand to read ever post in a thread that you post in, but I don't. 
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Re: Video: Royal Marines capture and sink pirate vessel
« Reply #109 on: June 10, 2009, 01:53:42 PM »
I think Die Hard made a very thoughtfull and concered post on the subject.....

It took 5 pages of Personal attack against him  before it was cleared up with one post.....


A lot of you have statments that are nothing more that personal attacks.spewed out of raw emotion.


Whether it was a  legal action taken by the RN was the point of the post ... Not whether we think we are right ,or have enough of an emotion to say  ..........."Ya  looks like pirats nuke um".....

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Re: Video: Royal Marines capture and sink pirate vessel
« Reply #110 on: June 10, 2009, 02:39:09 PM »
How about getting real.
The fact goes that somali pirates, armed as well as they can, have been boarding and capturing ships from various nations while cruising through.
Any error there? Don't think so.
Second fact. Some Pirates have been caugh en-route/in/after the act.
En-route would mean some guys with nothing but guns&ammo at sea. And there is nothing to catch there for that gear.
I see no error there.

So, why on god's green earth is there anything wrong with:
1: Escort business. Just what the RN did. Nobody dies. Some goofs with arms caught, boat blown up as a bonus. Period.
2: Rescue business. What the Americans did. Oii, kidnap a captain of a merchant vessel of earth's military power no1 and think it's just fine....it isn't. And it isn't just fine anyway!!!! Make your day ...just that way.

Again. WTG RN  :aok
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Re: Video: Royal Marines capture and sink pirate vessel
« Reply #111 on: June 10, 2009, 06:21:48 PM »
I think Die Hard made a very thoughtfull and concered post on the subject.....

It took 5 pages of Personal attack against him  before it was cleared up with one post.....


A lot of you have statments that are nothing more that personal attacks.spewed out of raw emotion.


Whether it was a  legal action taken by the RN was the point of the post ... Not whether we think we are right ,or have enough of an emotion to say  ..........."Ya  looks like pirats nuke um".....

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At least one got it!  :)

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Re: Video: Royal Marines capture and sink pirate vessel
« Reply #112 on: June 10, 2009, 06:31:20 PM »
Where is that clear-up post?
It was very interesting to carry out the flight trials at Rechlin with the Spitfire and the Hurricane. Both types are very simple to fly compared to our aircraft, and childishly easy to take-off and land. (Werner Mölders)

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Re: Video: Royal Marines capture and sink pirate vessel
« Reply #113 on: June 10, 2009, 06:36:42 PM »
Page 6.
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Re: Video: Royal Marines capture and sink pirate vessel
« Reply #114 on: June 11, 2009, 03:42:41 AM »
T'was a good page.
Anyway, regarding the "law", sometimes the rules have to be bent a bit. We have an old saying which would translate roughly like "with law one constructs a country, with un-law lay to waste". Got a bit of double meaning though, for "un-law" could apply both to no law or bad law.
In the pirate cases happening, it seems that the law do not fix the leak, so in order to stop the pirates, those who consider the law to be on their side will have to cross the line for the fix....
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Re: Video: Royal Marines capture and sink pirate vessel
« Reply #115 on: June 11, 2009, 04:04:32 AM »
At least one got it!  :)

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*COUGH*  just one?
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Re: Video: Royal Marines capture and sink pirate vessel
« Reply #116 on: June 11, 2009, 09:24:00 AM »
Ha!


here's the thing:  Yep, international law may very well be grey in certain areas and yep, what the RN did could certainly be argued over in it's legality.  However......

a)  There is no organised government in Somalia to raise these objections.

b)  They were ******* pirates.

and c)  We don't give a ****.


Common sense needs to prevail, it did prevail at the time and now there's one less pirate skiff in the world.
Result.

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Re: Video: Royal Marines capture and sink pirate vessel
« Reply #117 on: June 11, 2009, 10:07:31 AM »

*COUGH*  just one?

No, at least one. ;) Hopefully many.

Your countryman above apparently didn't.
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Re: Video: Royal Marines capture and sink pirate vessel
« Reply #118 on: June 11, 2009, 10:34:34 AM »
If you think I don't understand your point then you don't understand mine. 

I get you fine, I just don't care whether it was legal or not.


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Re: Video: Royal Marines capture and sink pirate vessel
« Reply #119 on: June 11, 2009, 10:40:48 AM »
Thank you for proving my point so clearly.

I was defending the law not those that break it. Many people in this thread displayed opinions that unfortunately are becoming prevalent; that it is ok for law enforcement and the military to take liberties with the law. I was wrong about the RN in this case, but people here defended the actions of the RN regardless of legality. That's worrying.
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