Author Topic: Vultee A31/A35 Vengance  (Read 3672 times)

Offline Nemisis

  • Persona Non Grata
  • Platinum Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 4086
      • Fightin 49'ers
Vultee A31/A35 Vengance
« on: June 07, 2009, 02:11:34 PM »
The Vengance is best described a interesting. It was a two seat dive bomber, could fly at 279 mph, could fly 2300 miles, it's celing was 22,300ft. And here's where it gets interesting: it could carry up to 2,000lbs of bombs, around half that of the stuka, AND was armed with six .50 cal mg's. I think it has the potential to be a great addition to the game; it has the ability to defend itself as well as the mustang and better than any divebomber other than the Il2. Think about it before you automaticly reject it as the British ordered over 1,000 planes and the U.S. comandered 243 of the planes meant for enland an made many more under the designation A35. If you want to check it out yourself I got the info at http://www.daveswarbirds.com and click on american aircraft of wwII, go down to divebombers (on the side of the page) once you have clicked enter and it is at the top 
« Last Edit: June 07, 2009, 03:36:44 PM by Nemisis »
All man needs to be happy is a home, his wife, and a place in the world

Col. 49Nem, Armor commander of the 49th

Offline lyric1

  • Skinner Team
  • Plutonium Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 10586
Re: Vultee A31/A35 Vengance
« Reply #1 on: June 07, 2009, 02:35:17 PM »
Yeah I would take it how ever it was considered a death trap by most of it's crews & was withdrawn from most squadrons.


Offline Nemisis

  • Persona Non Grata
  • Platinum Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 4086
      • Fightin 49'ers
Re: Vultee A31/A35 Vengance
« Reply #2 on: June 07, 2009, 02:43:10 PM »
ya, to bad, I mean we don't even have mechanical faliures in AH2. The closest thing we got right now is pilot error if you gota go heat up a hot pocket and forget to put on the auto pilot :(. Just saying, it would be a good combonation: enough bombs to down a hanger and the guns of a P51.
All man needs to be happy is a home, his wife, and a place in the world

Col. 49Nem, Armor commander of the 49th

Offline Enker

  • Silver Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 1553
Re: Vultee A31/A35 Vengance
« Reply #3 on: June 07, 2009, 10:12:52 PM »
ya, to bad, I mean we don't even have mechanical faliures in AH2. The closest thing we got right now is pilot error if you gota go heat up a hot pocket and forget to put on the auto pilot :(. Just saying, it would be a good combonation: enough bombs to down a hanger and the guns of a P51.
I thought hangars required 3000 lbs....
InGame ID: Cairn
Quote from: BillyD topic=283300.msg3581799#msg3581799
... FOR TEH MUPPET$ TO PAD OUR SCO?E N to WIN TEH EPIC WAR OF TEH UNIVERSE We MUST VULTCHE DA RUNWAYZ N DROP UR GUYZ FIGHTERZ Bunkarz Then OUR SKWAD will Finarry Get TACTICAL NOOK for 25 KILL SCORE  STREAK>X

Offline Nemisis

  • Persona Non Grata
  • Platinum Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 4086
      • Fightin 49'ers
Re: Vultee A31/A35 Vengance
« Reply #4 on: June 07, 2009, 10:16:34 PM »
No, or I have made serious miscalcultaions on how much ord I am droping from my bomber(sometimes "s").
All man needs to be happy is a home, his wife, and a place in the world

Col. 49Nem, Armor commander of the 49th

Offline Banshee7

  • Platinum Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 6396
Re: Vultee A31/A35 Vengance
« Reply #5 on: June 07, 2009, 10:19:48 PM »
I thought hangars required 3000 lbs....

2500 lbs to take down a hangar. 
-=Most Wanted=-
"Masters of the Air" Scenario - JG27


||||||||

Offline Nemisis

  • Persona Non Grata
  • Platinum Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 4086
      • Fightin 49'ers
Re: Vultee A31/A35 Vengance
« Reply #6 on: June 07, 2009, 10:53:18 PM »
OK, that would explaine it.       Well anyway. You got to admit, It would be an insane combonation; 2000lbs of bombs, 6 .50 cal mg's, I would assume it has the manuverability of the usuall divebombers or MABY a little better then the Dauntless.
All man needs to be happy is a home, his wife, and a place in the world

Col. 49Nem, Armor commander of the 49th

Offline Saxman

  • Plutonium Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 9155
Re: Vultee A31/A35 Vengance
« Reply #7 on: June 07, 2009, 11:12:03 PM »
OK, that would explaine it.       Well anyway. You got to admit, It would be an insane combonation; 2000lbs of bombs, 6 .50 cal mg's, I would assume it has the manuverability of the usuall divebombers or MABY a little better then the Dauntless.

Or you could take up an F4U-1D and get the same 6x.50cal and 2000lbs of bombs. Then tack on 8x5" HVAR and you still have an aircraft that is far more capable of defending itself once light.

Would it be interesting to add eventually? Sure. But there's no significant gaps that in the plane set this would fill. The Dauntless was already a contemporary, and its service with the US was limited if any. Of those that were exported very few saw front-line combat before they were withdrawn. It might be a nice addition for FSO and other scenario-type setups, but there's still a large number of far more important aircraft of all types needed for those (TBD, G4M, He-111, Ki-43, etc).
Ron White says you can't fix stupid. I beg to differ. Stupid will usually sort itself out, it's just a matter of making sure you're not close enough to become collateral damage.

Offline Nemisis

  • Persona Non Grata
  • Platinum Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 4086
      • Fightin 49'ers
Re: Vultee A31/A35 Vengance
« Reply #8 on: June 08, 2009, 06:13:32 PM »
If you say the dauntless is good enough then how come everytime I up one even with almost total air superiority I get shot down? I can get on their tail for a bit, I would have killed them in that time with a P51, but it just dosen't hit hard enough. besides, unless I am thinking of another planes bomb load then it' bomb load is well....unimpressive. If we aren't going to get this then can we at least get the SB2C-4 (son of a bich second class) aka helldiver.
All man needs to be happy is a home, his wife, and a place in the world

Col. 49Nem, Armor commander of the 49th

Offline Spikes

  • Aces High CM Staff
  • Plutonium Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 15639
    • Twitch: Twitch Feed
Re: Vultee A31/A35 Vengance
« Reply #9 on: June 08, 2009, 06:38:49 PM »
2500 lbs to take down a hangar. 
2500 for VH and BH, 3K for FH.
i7-12700k | Gigabyte Z690 GAMING X | 64GB G.Skill DDR4 | EVGA 1080ti FTW3 | H150i Capellix

FlyKommando.com

Offline Nemisis

  • Persona Non Grata
  • Platinum Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 4086
      • Fightin 49'ers
Re: Vultee A31/A35 Vengance
« Reply #10 on: June 08, 2009, 07:09:24 PM »
Strange, I would have thought the bomber hangers would require more ord :confused:.  Can anyone tell me why that is? Well then this kinda sucks if spikes is right.
All man needs to be happy is a home, his wife, and a place in the world

Col. 49Nem, Armor commander of the 49th

Offline Spikes

  • Aces High CM Staff
  • Plutonium Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 15639
    • Twitch: Twitch Feed
Re: Vultee A31/A35 Vengance
« Reply #11 on: June 08, 2009, 07:28:37 PM »
Strange, I would have thought the bomber hangers would require more ord :confused:.  Can anyone tell me why that is? Well then this kinda sucks if spikes is right.
I'm right unless they changed it within the past month or so...I've always remembered it that way.
i7-12700k | Gigabyte Z690 GAMING X | 64GB G.Skill DDR4 | EVGA 1080ti FTW3 | H150i Capellix

FlyKommando.com

Offline Nemisis

  • Persona Non Grata
  • Platinum Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 4086
      • Fightin 49'ers
Re: Vultee A31/A35 Vengance
« Reply #12 on: June 08, 2009, 07:38:27 PM »
Have you checked withen a month or so or do you just remember it like that? I always remembered it as 2,000 for every hanger regardless of the type. Maby we should get an expert on this thing......................


(Nem yelling into the next room)SCUZZY......WE NEED YOUR SAY IN THIS, CAN YOU COME HERE FOR A SEC? :D. You gota admit that was kind funny.
All man needs to be happy is a home, his wife, and a place in the world

Col. 49Nem, Armor commander of the 49th

Offline Easyscor

  • Plutonium Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 10888
Re: Vultee A31/A35 Vengance
« Reply #13 on: June 08, 2009, 07:55:37 PM »
Default hanger hardness across the board: 2,781 lb. That's in the MAs.
You never know what the evil terrain builders  :t and the CMs will do for the other arenas, testing is always advisable for those.

« Last Edit: June 08, 2009, 07:57:08 PM by Easyscor »
Easy in-game again.
Since Tour 19 - 2001

Offline Nemisis

  • Persona Non Grata
  • Platinum Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 4086
      • Fightin 49'ers
Re: Vultee A31/A35 Vengance
« Reply #14 on: June 08, 2009, 09:12:22 PM »
Thank you easyscor, <S>.   And could you please make it so it takes only 2000lbs of bombs? It would get the divebombers and other light load aircraft some exercise. :D
All man needs to be happy is a home, his wife, and a place in the world

Col. 49Nem, Armor commander of the 49th