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Offline The Grinch

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The Tallboy and Grandslam bomb
« on: June 09, 2009, 10:21:50 AM »
The Tallboy Bomb
     - A Lancaster Delivered Earthquake :devil

In the spring of 1942 the Nazis were building reinforced concrete submarine bases that were bomb-proof against any existing weapons. At this time the largest penetrating bomb available to Bomber Command weighed a mere 1000 pounds.

As early as the fall of 1940, the brilliant Vickers Armstrong engineer and designer of the Wellington Bomber, Barnes Wallis, had demonstrated in his research how extra-large, penetrating bombs could create an earthquake like pressure wave that would destroy nearby structures by displacing their foundations. Wallis was envisioning a weapon weighing 20,000 pounds that would be dropped from an altitude of 40,000 feet, and reach the speed of sound. Known as the "Tallboy," there was no aircraft in the foreseeable future that could carry it so the design was put on hold.

Following the success of Wallis's "Bouncing Bomb" in the Dambusters Raid, his Tallboy design was reviewed. There was still no aircraft capable of carrying the original design to 40,000 feet but the Lancaster was now operational and had proven itself able to carry a 12,000 pound weapon. Wallis revised his design, including offsetting the tailfins by five degrees. This improved the weapons stability significantly. Released from the optimum height of 18,000 feet the bomb took 37 seconds to reach the ground, impacting with a speed of 750 miles per hour. During the night of June 8, 1944 the first Tallboy was dropped, causing extensive damage to the Saumur Railway Tunnel, preventing enemy reinforcements including tank units from reaching the beaches of Normandy.
 
 :devilDuring March, 1945 a larger version of the weapon, the 22,000 pound "Grand Slam" became operational. With a length of 25 feet, 5 inches and a diameter of 46 inches, this bomb required the complete removal of the Lancaster's bomb bay doors. A total of 41 Grand Slams were dropped during the closing days of the war. :devil


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Re: The Tallboy and Grandslam bomb
« Reply #1 on: June 09, 2009, 10:29:26 AM »
Good first post.....

Now get yourself ready!

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Re: The Tallboy and Grandslam bomb
« Reply #3 on: June 09, 2009, 10:33:03 AM »
I say  +1   perk it as much as you like but wouldn't a 1 salvo town drop be AWESOME!  will be cool to see the explosion including defending GV's   :t.

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Re: The Tallboy and Grandslam bomb
« Reply #4 on: June 09, 2009, 12:28:13 PM »
Currently, AH does not support ordnance larger than 4,000lbs.  No Tallboy, no Grand Slam.


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Re: The Tallboy and Grandslam bomb
« Reply #5 on: June 09, 2009, 01:01:36 PM »
was thinking about this the other day and i remembered a program that said the bomb had to be dropped at 30k to reach a speed high enough to penetrate the ground deep enough to have the earthquack effect. i think bullets (not cannons) lose effectiveness at longer ranges so the coding is all ready in place.

my thought was that if dropped below 30k in game then the bomb would only be as effective as a 4,000lb bomb and as bruv said no formations.
30k would mean next to imposable to hit a cv and i "think" towns would be hard to see as well (i never been up to 30k before) and maybe add a little wind above 25k.

also i think a bomb view would be cool after you drop so you can view the bomb d300 behind it as it falls to the target.

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Re: The Tallboy and Grandslam bomb
« Reply #6 on: June 09, 2009, 01:17:30 PM »
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Re: The Tallboy and Grandslam bomb
« Reply #7 on: June 09, 2009, 03:08:10 PM »
was thinking about this the other day and i remembered a program that said the bomb had to be dropped at 30k to reach a speed high enough to penetrate the ground deep enough to have the earthquack effect.

Both the Tallboy and Grandslam were designed for 30k drops.
In reality the Lanc struggled to get up to 25k to drop them, still did the job though!
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Re: The Tallboy and Grandslam bomb
« Reply #8 on: June 09, 2009, 05:40:41 PM »
No uber, earthquake causing, town destroying bombs. I mean it could take out a bridge that had survived WAY, WAY, WAY, way more than it's fair share of bombs, so it could probably destroy a town in a single drop. If you want a bomb like that then you would have to have double the icon range for the bomber carrying it so the fighters would have a better chance to shoot it down....well maby not. But still...NO uber bombs.
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Re: The Tallboy and Grandslam bomb
« Reply #9 on: June 09, 2009, 06:26:36 PM »
No uber, earthquake causing, town destroying bombs. I mean it could take out a bridge that had survived WAY, WAY, WAY, way more than it's fair share of bombs, so it could probably destroy a town in a single drop. If you want a bomb like that then you would have to have double the icon range for the bomber carrying it so the fighters would have a better chance to shoot it down....well maby not. But still...NO uber bombs.


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Re: The Tallboy and Grandslam bomb
« Reply #10 on: June 09, 2009, 06:37:47 PM »
Both the Tallboy and Grandslam were designed for 30k drops.
In reality the Lanc struggled to get up to 25k to drop them, still did the job though!


The pilots would die of old age before they reached 25k. :salute
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Re: The Tallboy and Grandslam bomb
« Reply #11 on: June 09, 2009, 07:30:05 PM »
Die of old age and the planes would run out of gas. Or the explosives would decay or become old and unsable if that can even happen.
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Re: The Tallboy and Grandslam bomb
« Reply #12 on: June 09, 2009, 09:25:29 PM »
destruction by earthquake + 4000lbs bomb cap = drop Rosie O'Donnel from a lanc.

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Re: The Tallboy and Grandslam bomb
« Reply #13 on: June 09, 2009, 10:54:24 PM »
HOLY CRAP!!! I thought we were talking about a bomb not a WMD!!! OMG, you drop her out of a plane from 15K your gona take out a whole continent, not just a base.
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Re: The Tallboy and Grandslam bomb
« Reply #14 on: June 10, 2009, 04:13:47 AM »
Did some Lancaster flying today, with 14k bombs + 50% fuel. After about half an hour it reached 25k, at which it could only climb about 200ft/min. And it required almost full power to fly even level at those altitudes. Now imagine having 8k MORE bombload! I doubt you'd even reach 25k...