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Re: Bomber Defensive Scoring
« Reply #45 on: June 25, 2009, 05:09:41 AM »
I have wondered why HTC does not track gunner/observer kills either...They should, since some people like to gun for others. That should be a separate category too. I agree with LLogan, add kills category, NOW!  :pray

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Re: Bomber Defensive Scoring
« Reply #46 on: June 25, 2009, 09:39:10 AM »
I will have you know, Sir, that I have TWO gunner/observer kills! Thank you. Would be nice if my kids were not working for the BISH as sabotuers (how to spell that?), I might have more kills if they went to Grandma's for a whole tour...Maybe next tour.  :t
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Re: Bomber Defensive Scoring
« Reply #47 on: June 25, 2009, 03:04:17 PM »
HAHA.... Perhaps you should be working for the Bish also! 

I will have you know, Sir, that I have TWO gunner/observer kills! Thank you. Would be nice if my kids were not working for the BISH as sabotuers (how to spell that?), I might have more kills if they went to Grandma's for a whole tour...Maybe next tour.  :t
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Re: Bomber Defensive Scoring
« Reply #48 on: June 25, 2009, 09:26:04 PM »
great another score tards way lol
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Re: Bomber Defensive Scoring
« Reply #49 on: June 26, 2009, 12:36:52 PM »
Brother........  You DO NOT fly bombers.
great another score tards way lol
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Re: Bomber Defensive Scoring
« Reply #50 on: July 07, 2009, 01:07:57 PM »
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Re: Bomber Defensive Scoring
« Reply #51 on: July 07, 2009, 10:53:59 PM »
I guess I'm the lonely voice of dissent here.  I'm against it. 

I see the reincarnation of the death star in a slightly different format; groups of three or more formations all with gunners on board flying low through furballs ripping apart the unsuspecting fighters with no intention whatsoever to bomb anything.

Been there done that.  Don't need to see it again.
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Re: Bomber Defensive Scoring
« Reply #52 on: July 08, 2009, 09:55:06 AM »
Sir, your point is very valid...... However, I don't believe that adding the Defensive Kills to the Scoring System will increase or decrease such things.  Call me a tard but if I can up 24's at a capped field..........  The field may not stay capped.  As for low bombers running into a furball........  They still have to get there first.   :salute

I guess I'm the lonely voice of dissent here.  I'm against it. 

I see the reincarnation of the death star in a slightly different format; groups of three or more formations all with gunners on board flying low through furballs ripping apart the unsuspecting fighters with no intention whatsoever to bomb anything.

Been there done that.  Don't need to see it again.
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Re: Bomber Defensive Scoring
« Reply #53 on: August 13, 2009, 10:32:09 AM »
Bumping of an old thread so as not to have to introduce a new one....... Again.

Defending your buff's is sometimes a far more important characteristic then the bombing itself....  Afterall, you do need to reach your target.

Defensive kills currently do not count towards your score, only perk points. 

Please add another Bomber Scoring Cat:
Defensive Kills

Make it not as valuable as bombing kills but they should count nonetheless.

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Re: Bomber Defensive Scoring
« Reply #54 on: August 13, 2009, 12:47:50 PM »
I see the point some of you are trying to make,a kills a kill and should be rewarded,ahh but it is you get perks for bomber kills of fighters.
Now if your saying it doesnt count towards "Rank" well thats another subject!! First off,unslave the guns so when your in a turret with twin 50's only those 2 50's fire.Sure keep the formations,the F3 views, the ability to steer from gun position,but unslave the guns,then maybe the kills would be worth counting.

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Re: Bomber Defensive Scoring
« Reply #55 on: August 13, 2009, 07:52:51 PM »
Why not just do it this way...

Divide the amount the kill is worth in points by the number of bombers you are flying?  So if you are in a full formation when you get the kill, you get 0.33 for each kill you make in a bomber.  If you have 2 bombers left... you get 0.5 for a kill.  If you are in a solo bomber, you get full credit.

That way... the bomber pilots get what they want, and the fighter pilots dont feel like they are getting shafted on the scores?

Makes sense to me...

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Re: Bomber Defensive Scoring
« Reply #56 on: August 13, 2009, 08:28:46 PM »
Why not just do it this way...

Divide the amount the kill is worth in points by the number of bombers you are flying?  So if you are in a full formation when you get the kill, you get 0.33 for each kill you make in a bomber.  If you have 2 bombers left... you get 0.5 for a kill.  If you are in a solo bomber, you get full credit.

That way... the bomber pilots get what they want, and the fighter pilots dont feel like they are getting shafted on the scores?

Makes sense to me...

 That Sir is a logical well thoughtout proposal!


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Re: Bomber Defensive Scoring
« Reply #57 on: August 28, 2009, 01:43:28 PM »
BUMP


I think that would make for a fair addition!!!

That Sir is a logical well thoughtout proposal!


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Re: Bomber Defensive Scoring
« Reply #58 on: August 28, 2009, 05:12:38 PM »
I'm not really sure what the whining is about with formations.  Sure, if you saddle up on a formation's 6 o'clock at 400-600 yards out, you're going to get cut to pieces.  That's as it should be.  There's a really good way to shoot down whole formations of bombers, and that's not to saddle up on their 6.  Try actually using attack angles that are hard to defend against.  I personally love a full formation of bombers rather than a single one.  It means I can get three kills instead of one.

As for the OP, I'm all for it.  The scoring system exists, for better or for worse.  I'd say counting aerial victories against marauding fighters makes at least as much sense as counting a "bombing" percentage in GVs.  Actually, it makes way, way more sense.  How "score hoar" is it when guys (I've done this too) take an Sdkfz 251 with rockets into a town and blow up buildings, just to boost their score.  And yet a guy's bombing score isn't affected by being a really great defensive gunner and killing lots of fighters that attack his buffs?

I really don't see how the OP isn't perfectly sensible in the context of a scoring system that's not going away.  If "bombing %" makes any kind of sense at all for the GVs, then certainly defensive gunnery kills ought to count for bomber rank.

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Re: Bomber Defensive Scoring
« Reply #59 on: September 10, 2009, 11:48:48 AM »
Since HiTech is looking around, I figured it's a good time for a bump of an important topic!!!

Defending your buff's is sometimes a far more important characteristic then the bombing itself....  Afterall, you do need to reach your target.

Defensive kills currently do not count towards your score, only perk points. 

Please add another Bomber Scoring Cat:
Defensive Kills

Make it not as valuable as bombing kills but they should count nonetheless.

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