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Offline Greebo

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Re: WooHoo! The I-16!
« Reply #105 on: June 10, 2009, 02:37:55 PM »
The AH I-16 is a late model hybrid that can be configured for all the armament options the various I-16 models had in real life and that includes the version with 20mm cannons. It can also carry the six rockets.

The I-16 had a mixed construction. The wing was of all metal construction, the centre section was metal skinned and the outer sections and tail surfaces were fabric covered. The fuselage was a wooden structure which was then ply skinned.

The real life I-16 was highly maneuverable, very sensitive to the controls and only marginally stable. So a ham fisted pilot could find himself in a spin very easily. It was also quite tricky to land and there were a lot of accidents when it was introduced.
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Re: WooHoo! The I-16!
« Reply #106 on: June 10, 2009, 02:44:27 PM »
Quote from: moot on June 10, 2009, 02:04:31 PM
Totally different guns.. Look them up

No, no no no no!

That's 20 23mm cannon, not 20/23mms. 

You can sink ships with it.  There's a clip that runs to the ground fed by a diesel powered autoloader so you have enough ammo along with a silk and nylon tube of vodka and borscht for the pilot.

I found that on the internet so I think it's failry accurate.
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Re: WooHoo! The I-16!
« Reply #107 on: June 10, 2009, 02:46:50 PM »
Quote from: Greebo on June 10, 2009, 02:37:55 PM
The AH I-16 is a late model hybrid that can be configured for all the armament options the various I-16 models had in real life and that includes the version with 20mm cannons. It can also carry the six rockets.

The I-16 had a mixed construction. The wing was of all metal construction, the centre section was metal skinned and the outer sections and tail surfaces were fabric covered. The fuselage was a wooden structure which was then ply skinned.

The real life I-16 was highly maneuverable, very sensitive to the controls and only marginally stable. So a ham fisted pilot could find himself in a spin very easily. It was also quite tricky to land and there were a lot of accidents when it was introduced.
Thanks for being our inside man, Greebo :D

I forgot about the stability problems. Wasn't there a saying in the VVS that, if you could fly the I16 that you could fly anything?
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Re: WooHoo! The I-16!
« Reply #108 on: June 10, 2009, 02:48:23 PM »
Quote from: Sakai on June 10, 2009, 02:44:27 PM
No, no no no no!

That's 20 23mm cannon, not 20/23mms. 

You can sink ships with it.  There's a clip that runs to the ground fed by a diesel powered autoloader so you have enough ammo along with a silk and nylon tube of vodka and borscht for the pilot.

I found that on the internet so I think it's failry accurate.

That was the first design auto loader. The second design used wind power to help green things up, and if you saw it on the internet, it haas got to be true!
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Re: WooHoo! The I-16!
« Reply #109 on: June 10, 2009, 02:49:35 PM »
Sakai -  I don't get it.  The only thing those two numbers bring up are the russian 20mm and 23mm guns, which are totally different.  What does 20 23mm mean and which I-16 had a 23mm?  The only Russian 23mm I know would be huge for something like the I-16.
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Re: WooHoo! The I-16!
« Reply #110 on: June 10, 2009, 02:50:44 PM »
Quote from: Sakai on June 10, 2009, 02:44:27 PM
... along with a silk and nylon tube of vodka and borscht for the pilot.
One tube for both vodka and borscht!?!?
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Re: WooHoo! The I-16!
« Reply #111 on: June 10, 2009, 02:51:46 PM »
Quote from: Greebo on June 10, 2009, 02:37:55 PM
The AH I-16 is a late model hybrid that can be configured for all the armament options the various I-16 models had in real life and that includes the version with 20mm cannons. It can also carry the six rockets.

The I-16 had a mixed construction. The wing was of all metal construction, the centre section was metal skinned and the outer sections and tail surfaces were fabric covered. The fuselage was a wooden structure which was then ply skinned.

The real life I-16 was highly maneuverable, very sensitive to the controls and only marginally stable. So a ham fisted pilot could find himself in a spin very easily. It was also quite tricky to land and there were a lot of accidents when it was introduced.
In that case I think the I-16 will be surprisingly common for an early war fighter, and perhaps even the bane of Hurricane Mk IICs in the EWA.

Quote from: Wedge1126 on June 10, 2009, 02:50:44 PM
One tube for both vodka and borscht!?!?
Design flaw.
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Re: WooHoo! The I-16!
« Reply #112 on: June 10, 2009, 03:00:19 PM »
WOOOOOOT! My new main ride has arrived....... :x
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Re: WooHoo! The I-16!
« Reply #113 on: June 10, 2009, 03:01:23 PM »
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Re: WooHoo! The I-16!
« Reply #114 on: June 10, 2009, 03:05:10 PM »
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Re: WooHoo! The I-16!
« Reply #115 on: June 10, 2009, 03:07:53 PM »
Weren't Russkie pilots known for drinking the go juice from their alcohol injection systems... BAD IVAN!!! LOL!!!

So its 20mm, not 23, OK!!! Whatever man.... I don't claim to be a master of the completely inconsequential details... If you are, then goody gumdrops for you!!!!  I have more important things to think about, lol!!!    Heck, I didn't know they were equipped with cannon at all..  Thought they were MGs only... Pleasant suprise!!!

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Re: WooHoo! The I-16!
« Reply #116 on: June 10, 2009, 03:13:04 PM »
No more vague dweeb16 topics. :lol
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Re: WooHoo! The I-16!
« Reply #117 on: June 10, 2009, 03:14:57 PM »
Quote from: BaDkaRmA158Th on June 10, 2009, 01:53:16 PM
I guess i must remind you all that the il-16 were always short ranged front line fighters.

You will NEVER see these planes attacking each other from airfield to airfield.

The later more capable versions while having more guns and such, also have engines that use MORE fuel, it is in that sence the more ubber version of the il-16 will suffer from range more than the early versions.


Regardless, this will be a NOE buster upper, because the planes so small and light and decently armed it should prove able to knock some attackers off a town.

:Edit: and no, the tiny little drop tanks wont really matter that much when it comes to getting this planes butt to another airfield. Most 16's will find them selfs crash landing with no fuel long before they get shot down in alot of cases.

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Re: WooHoo! The I-16!
« Reply #118 on: June 10, 2009, 03:17:51 PM »
Quote from: RipChord929 on June 10, 2009, 03:07:53 PM
completely inconsequential details...
Huge difference between the russian 20mm's and 23mm.
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Re: WooHoo! The I-16!
« Reply #119 on: June 10, 2009, 03:21:45 PM »
What Wmaker said  :O  :x

This I-16 is longitudinal neutral or even unstable plane, right? At least I once read something like that from somewhere...

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