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Offline BigPlay

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Re: Why would the Brits....?
« Reply #30 on: June 19, 2009, 11:37:56 AM »
I thought the trailing letter in Navy type designations ('C' in F6C) referred to the manufacturer, in this case, Curtiss.  Like how the 'U' in F4U refers to Vought, G = Goodyear, D = Douglas, H was McDonnell in the 50s, etc.


I know it's very confusing. For some reason the US complicates things like this. For example why would they use the fighter squadron designation the way they did and do. It's not like there was 357 fighter groups or 321 squadrons within that group. To me the German system seemed a lot less complicated, JG1, JG2 and so on and so on.

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Re: Why would the Brits....?
« Reply #31 on: June 19, 2009, 12:14:58 PM »
I thought the trailing letter in Navy type designations ('C' in F6C) referred to the manufacturer, in this case, Curtiss.  Like how the 'U' in F4U refers to Vought, G = Goodyear, D = Douglas, H was McDonnell in the 50s, etc.

That's almost what he said.  He counted his "C" twice I believe.  Both for Curtis and and the same "C" for the third version.

It should have probably read:  F6C-C


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Re: Why would the Brits....?
« Reply #32 on: June 19, 2009, 01:17:39 PM »
God, the Sweeb got it all wrong. It's Airacobra, the P40 is a warhawk.

Regardless, BigPlay is proving what I said in my first post.    Meh, I'm human.   Sweeb!
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Re: Why would the Brits....?
« Reply #33 on: June 19, 2009, 05:59:33 PM »
you all missed that the N-ilsen stand for N(orvegian) - troll :p

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Re: Why would the Brits....?
« Reply #34 on: June 19, 2009, 09:01:11 PM »
I thought the original mention of the P38 being  bomber was a shot at all us cartoon B-38 pilots :)

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Re: Why would the Brits....?
« Reply #35 on: June 19, 2009, 09:30:22 PM »
I thought the original mention of the P38 being  bomber was a shot at all us cartoon B-38 pilots :)



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Re: Why would the Brits....?
« Reply #36 on: June 20, 2009, 12:36:41 AM »
I know Nilsen was fooling around, but others then took that ball and ran with it.   
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Re: Why would the Brits....?
« Reply #37 on: June 20, 2009, 02:00:29 PM »
Regardless, BigPlay is proving what I said in my first post.    Meh, I'm human.   Sweeb!
hehehe, Someone has to get on your cas sometimes  ;)

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Re: Why would the Brits....?
« Reply #38 on: June 20, 2009, 03:24:35 PM »
I know it carries and drops bombs but the "P" designation says it's a fighter. I have a felling your just being fascias.

actually, the "P" designation says it's a pursuit aircraft.  :D
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Re: Why would the Brits....?
« Reply #39 on: June 20, 2009, 03:30:54 PM »


not sure what your trying to prove here, P was for pursuit, for  obvious patrol planes like the PBY, PB2Y, PB4y. PB standing for patrol/bomber. The F for fighter designation did not become implemented until after WW2

because(i think) the p51, 47, 38, etc., were originally intended to chase down bombers, escort our bombers, and chase bad guys away(hopefully)......thus the "pursuit" designation. that's also why in reality, these aircraft had such a hard time in a tight turning fight with little wiggly things like the me109, zeeks, etc.......the f4f could sorta kinda handle zeeks, and i think the f6f was designed specifically to fight the zeeks.

i could be wrong though.....
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Re: Why would the Brits....?
« Reply #40 on: June 20, 2009, 05:38:54 PM »
because(i think) the p51, 47, 38, etc., were originally intended to chase down bombers, escort our bombers, and chase bad guys away(hopefully)......thus the "pursuit" designation. that's also why in reality, these aircraft had such a hard time in a tight turning fight with little wiggly things like the me109, zeeks, etc.......the f4f could sorta kinda handle zeeks, and i think the f6f was designed specifically to fight the zeeks.

i could be wrong though.....

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Re: Why would the Brits....?
« Reply #41 on: June 22, 2009, 03:45:36 AM »
because(i think) the p51, 47, 38, etc., were originally intended to chase down bombers, escort our bombers, and chase bad guys away(hopefully)......thus the "pursuit" designation.

Except P-51 was of course originally designed as low altitude reconnaissace and tactical support fighter. Even as a dive bomber. Before the actual high altitude fighter versions came along :)

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Re: Why would the Brits....?
« Reply #42 on: June 22, 2009, 08:00:49 AM »
Except P-51 was of course originally designed as low altitude reconnaissace and tactical support fighter. Even as a dive bomber. Before the actual high altitude fighter versions came along :)

hence it's original title of A-36 apache. A=Attack.
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Re: Why would the Brits....?
« Reply #43 on: June 22, 2009, 10:49:22 AM »
Shhhhh.  Go easy on him, after all, he tried to take a cheap shot and only repeat what I said.   


you trolling for something??????? I am not making a cheap shot at anyone. I also said the P-38 carries bombs but was a fighter. I never said it was a bomber. Now hopefully that is clear. However P-38's were used in a low level mission against the ploesti old fields and I'm almost sure they had bombs.
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Re: Why would the Brits....?
« Reply #44 on: June 22, 2009, 02:18:30 PM »
because(i think) the p51, 47, 38, etc., were originally intended to chase down bombers, escort our bombers, and chase bad guys away(hopefully)......thus the "pursuit" designation. that's also why in reality, these aircraft had such a hard time in a tight turning fight with little wiggly things like the me109, zeeks, etc.......the f4f could sorta kinda handle zeeks, and i think the f6f was designed specifically to fight the zeeks.

i could be wrong though.....


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