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Offline Tony Williams

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Cannons vs 50s
« Reply #75 on: April 17, 2001, 01:33:00 AM »
 
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Originally posted by MANDOBLE:
Here you can read a good article about
Mk108 monster cannon.
 http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/neilpage/pauke.html


Yes, a good article, except that the MK 108 wasn't in service in 1942.  1944 was more like it.

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Cannons vs 50s
« Reply #76 on: April 17, 2001, 09:01:00 AM »
And currently the Hog d is about 1 to 1...
while the Hog C is 1.5 to 1.

allot better then 1 to 3 and 2 to 1 respectivly.

Edit.
Hey I am 10 to 3 in the Hog D!...One was a carrier take off death, one was a landing death..

and 3 to 3 in the Hog C..
I guess I just dont take it seriosly

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Cannons vs 50s
« Reply #77 on: April 17, 2001, 09:09:00 AM »
 
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Originally posted by Hangtime:
LOL... 5 rounds.. LOL.
...6 hammerin .50's will put a LOT more rounds on target.. the effect would be akin to a hot wire slicing thru foam block.

Decimating.

Hristo.. c'mon. My gunnery averages bely yer statement. why the personal attack? yer fargin precious LW stuff might get ruffed up by an accurate MG model? Sheesh.

Hang

I've known Hangdoobie quite some time, and I'm confident HIS gunnery isn't in question.  Not saying this because he's my friend, (the guy absolutely hates me fer stealing his sheep), I'm saying because I have flown against and with him, both here and in Warpburps.

No I haven't fired the .50 in quite some time either, but Hangdoobie is on the right track, imho.  As are others that provide data and proof of what the .50 cal can do.

Vila is a poor example to compare against, since he is stellar to my earthworm, but then I've known Vila under different names near as long as Hangtime.  Give Vila a BB gun and a kite and he'll figure out how to shoot down a buff, or fighter inside of a week.    

I've gotten some good damage in deflection shots... Hellashish HO damage... Moderate trailing damage... and NO snapshot damage... with the .50's.  Is something wrong with my aim?  You'd have to ask the folks I fly against.

Now, to show I am not "pro Hangtime"...  Me thinks the buzzsaw yer Yaking about is the one on the P-38.  Yes, olde Maw Deuce has a good ROF, and Yes you'd likey break all kinds of things in that shot, and YES there'd be more than 5 half inch rounds passing completely THROUGH the target...  But I don't think penetration/colateral(sp?) damage is that accurately modeled here. So the other guys win this argument.

Now Hangdoobie, put away the crystal ball and let's commence to fightin'  

BTW - If I am wrong I admit it.  So if the damage model is better than I've found, and been told.... I apollogise in advance.


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