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Offline Banshee7

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Re: Someone explain to me something
« Reply #30 on: June 18, 2009, 10:37:13 PM »
What brought this question up is I will be getting a Dell laptop here shortly (so it's not necessarily for gaming purposes) and wanted to know things about Vista in advance.  Thanks for the replies.
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Re: Someone explain to me something
« Reply #31 on: June 18, 2009, 11:16:38 PM »
What brought this question up is I will be getting a Dell laptop here shortly (so it's not necessarily for gaming purposes) and wanted to know things about Vista in advance.  Thanks for the replies.

well the first thing you need to do, and probably one of the reasons so many people dislike vista..   is format that laptop and reinstall the OS..

pretty much any new laptop is going to come chocked full of GARBAGE.. and will run slow as crap out of the box, I think many people who's first experience with vista comes in this form, and they assume their brand new super fast computer is dog slow and full of problems because of Vista, when in reality its the other 48 programs that were pre-loaded on the machine which are slowing it down..


I guarantee, when you get it.. use it for like an hour AS IS,   then format it and reinstall just vista, and none of the other junk.. it will be twice as fast.. at least.

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Re: Someone explain to me something
« Reply #32 on: June 19, 2009, 12:27:19 AM »
well the first thing you need to do, and probably one of the reasons so many people dislike vista..   is format that laptop and reinstall the OS..

pretty much any new laptop is going to come chocked full of GARBAGE.. and will run slow as crap out of the box, I think many people who's first experience with vista comes in this form, and they assume their brand new super fast computer is dog slow and full of problems because of Vista, when in reality its the other 48 programs that were pre-loaded on the machine which are slowing it down..


I guarantee, when you get it.. use it for like an hour AS IS,   then format it and reinstall just vista, and none of the other junk.. it will be twice as fast.. at least.

I have another computer exactly like mine and to give vista another chance reinstalled it fresh.  64bit Windows Vista.  It wasn't as bad as the first experience, however it just wasn't as fast or smooth as XP was on the same machine.  Don't get me wrong, I didn't just try vista for a month and then threw it out.  I used it for a long time, but got tired of having to deal with things that shouldn't be wrong in the first place and reinstalled a fast and clean copy of XP.  Lots better.
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Re: Someone explain to me something
« Reply #33 on: June 19, 2009, 06:16:17 AM »
The people that seem to think Windows 7 will the savior of PCs everywhere is missing the fact that Windows 7 is based on Vista. It will probably be even more bloated.

Actually, although it is based on Vista, it has had some design revisions which makes it light years ahead of Vista.  That said, it is still slower than XP, but it is also less bloated than Vista.

So far, and I am keeping my fingers crossed, it looks to be a much better operating system than Vista.  I still do not like it, personally, as I still have yet to find a reason for all the massive changes in many areas along with the bloat.  At least Windows 7 will work as advertised and be much, much better for laptops than Vista.

I always thought it near criminal that Vista came on a laptop, given what it does to hardware.
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Re: Someone explain to me something
« Reply #34 on: June 19, 2009, 08:46:48 AM »


Vista=The Windows ME of this era....


So True.

Before the service pack came out it took FOREVER to copy files from one location to another, UAC is a joke, and you should try network printing in a mixed 32/64 bit environment. (Trust me, you'll have LOTS of fun with that)

It was supposed to be more secure....its not.  I clean bugs off vista machines as frequently as XP now.

I've transitioned through all the Microsoft OS's from DOS through Vista, and by far this has been the most painful learning curve.  Its like somebody came into your home and moved 85% of your stuff around.  Its still in there....but you have to search for it.

And the biggest question is: "Was there any reason for Vista other than marketing????"

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Re: Someone explain to me something
« Reply #35 on: June 19, 2009, 08:50:37 AM »
What brought this question up is I will be getting a Dell laptop here shortly (so it's not necessarily for gaming purposes) and wanted to know things about Vista in advance.  Thanks for the replies.

you can order from dell and specify the xp "downgrade"
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Re: Someone explain to me something
« Reply #36 on: June 19, 2009, 11:18:59 AM »
With lots of processor and memory, Vista will actually run faster than XP on equal hardware.  said amount of processor and memory is what is found on the typical mid range PC you can buy today.

Lots of people hate it, because that's whats cool right now, sticking with XP makes you some sort of hip rebel apparently.  Even more people on here hate it, because Skuzzy is very vocal about how much he hates it, and there there is a 10 mile list of Skuzzy sack riders on this site, if Skuzzy announced that breathing was un-cool, it would equate to mass murder.

Vista (orignally) had less driver support than XP, this is no longer the case, in fact its beginning to swing the other way, before long finding XP drivers for the latest hardware will become and issue.

(orignally) man programs were not Vista compatible, again this is no longer the case.

Many people's distaste of vista seems to root to a "just wait for windows 7".  But yet the same people will then say "Windows 7 is nothing but Vista SP2"  go figure.  so they say its the 2 are the same thing, but yet they hate one and want the other.

Vista is the future, like it or not, and its not all bad, and in fact has many great features, but its still not "cool" to use it apparently.  Of course the people who rail against it are actually total posers, if they were real rebels they would be using Linux.




I find your post in the most part uninformed and the bold part to be uncalled for and I'm offended by it (as should all the other "sack riders") There is alot of ppl on this board that actually do know a thing or 2 about pc's and Os's. We dont all blindly follow Skuzzy like little schoolboys. Alot of folks on here are in IT as well. Personally I dont know any large corporation that uses Vista. Mainly for all the reasons previously mentioned here. There is a reason for that. I know at my company we will NEVER EVER use it because of all its issues Especially in regards to networking.
I can't speak for everyone here but for me personally I value skuzzy's opinion based on his knowledge and experience. There are very FEW people I can say that about in regards to IT and computers. It's not like he is some fly-by-night wanna be spouting crap. Skuzzy actually knows what he is talking about and when he doesn't know he goes and finds out.
He knows more than me and I know a lil bit about this stuff ( net +, Sec +, CCNA, working on CCNA/Sec). Ask him to tell ya why his screen name is Skuzzy, might learn a lil something

For the average pc user who doesn't "know" any better, Vista is fine for the most part because they don't "know". My wife's laptop came with vista on it  :cry she loves it totally however once a week or so I have to get on it and fix stuff or make adjustments ect ect so that she keeps loving it otherwise my life would suck (if momma aint happy nobody's happy). I deal with the headach of vista cause she loves it and I love her soooo I deal with it...Vista is still a big pain in the arse campared to XP
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Re: Someone explain to me something
« Reply #37 on: June 19, 2009, 11:38:57 AM »
Geez, I hope no one blindly follows anything I have to say.  I depend on people challenging what I say.  I also do not offer an opinion until I have done my homework.  It does not mean I am right every time, but when it comes to a technical overview, I am confident in my assessment.  It wrong, I am also more than happy to admit it and apologize for missing the mark.

Of course, there will always be those who have to make the derogatory remark from time to time because they lack the talent or knowledge or skills to take the discussion to a technical level.  I guess it is easier to make those remarks than to actually have a discussion about things.  That is just a guess.  I have a lot of respect for many people on this board.  I also harbor disdain towards those whose arguments are nothing more than a personal attack on myself, or the community at large.

As it pertains to Vista, it is so good Microsoft is doing everything they can to kill it as fast as they can.  That says volumes about the quality of the product.  I figure Microsoft knows more about the operating system than any end user, including me.  They seem to think it needs to be killed.  I happen to agree.  What are the odds?

At this point in time, it really is silly for anyone to be a proponent of Vista, given the fact Microsoft has all but said they made a huge mistake with it and are in a very big hurry to get it off the market.
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Re: Someone explain to me something
« Reply #38 on: June 19, 2009, 01:52:02 PM »
It's like my Grand pappy used to say "you can lead a horse to water but ya can't make it drink....no matter how hard ya try to drown the dumb thing"  :rofl


He always used to like putting a lil twist to things
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Re: Someone explain to me something
« Reply #39 on: June 19, 2009, 02:02:16 PM »
DX10 then seems to be the only reason to get Vista over XP.

Not really since you can get DX10/10.1 to run on XP.


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