Author Topic: Mosquito FB.MkVI ammo load and ordanance load. (Read 1865 times)

juzz · « **Reply #15 on:** May 02, 2001, 12:57:00 AM »

I'd guess that the smaller ammo load is probably a common load used to reduce weight, while the larger one is the absolute capacity.

Karnak · « **Reply #16 on:** May 25, 2001, 11:32:00 AM »

OK, here are the number's I have:

1) 300 rounds for each of the 4 Hispano 20mm cannon and 2,000 rounds for each of the 4 .303 machine guns. From one of my books.

2) 250 rounds for each of the 4 Hispano 20mm cannon and 1,000 rounds for each of the 4 .303 machine guns. From another one of my books.

3) 150 rounds for each of the 4 Hispano 20mm cannon and 750 rounds for each of the 4 .303 machine guns. From WarBirds 2.77.

4) 150 rounds for each of the 4 Hispano 20mm cannon and 500 rounds for each of the 4 .303 machine guns. From Hammer Head's book on the Australian version of the Mosquito FB.VI.

The general consensus is that Option 1 is correct, on this board and on the SimHQ EAW board and NightBomber board. However, the general consensus has been known to be wrong.

Does anybody have any info on which of these is correct, or is it something else altogether?

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Nethawk · « **Reply #17 on:** May 26, 2001, 12:56:00 PM »

My guide concurs with your first numbers:

four 20mm Hispano cannons, 300 rounds each under the floor
four .303in Brownings with 200 rounds each in the nose
2 250lb bombs rear bay
2 250lb (later 500lb) bombs on wing racks
alternatively 50 or 100lb drop tanks, mines, depth charges or eight 60lb rockets

Incidentally, what may account for the different numbers - the book indicates that the Mosquito FB. VI were built by many factories, including Canada and Australia, "with minor differences".

[This message has been edited by Nethawk (edited 05-26-2001).]

Tilt · « **Reply #18 on:** May 27, 2001, 10:35:00 AM »

Two books I have on the subject

"Mosquito" (Sharp & Bowyer foreworded by Sir Geoffrey)

and a some what less reliable but more picturesque

"Mosquito" (Sweetman illustrations by Watanabe)

Both concurr with 4 x 20mm @ 300 rnds each and 4 x .303 @ 2000 rnds each for the MkVI.

In addition to the 2 x 500llb internals and 2 x 500llb wing bombs.

When not carrying wing bombs it could carry 4 x 25llb armour piercing or 4 x 60llb "semi" armour piercing rockets per wing.

Alternatively the the wing could be fitted with a profiled "dump" tank.

Tilt

SgtPappy · « **Reply #19 on:** March 21, 2006, 08:42:26 PM »

i believe that mossies carried torps back in the war. also, it would be great to see the sea mosquito in the game!

Squire · « **Reply #20 on:** March 21, 2006, 08:52:03 PM »

Be aware of typos.

2000 for "each" 303 was probably 500 rounds per gun. 4 x 500= 2000 rnds total, not each.

Typos like that are common in many books.

I find it unlikely the RAF thought a Mossie ever needed more than 800 rnds for a 303 on board (max load), even for anti-shipping or ground attack, its more than twice what a Spit or Hurricane would carry (300 rpg).

As for the rockets, the schematics clearly show that with a rocket load the wing pylons were not available for use, like the Typhoon. The internal bomb bay would still be available for use however.

Karnak · « **Reply #21 on:** March 22, 2006, 02:23:31 AM »

Egads this is an ancient thread.

I have long since obtained the real numbers. I emailed the RAF Museum and they told me what was in the armorers handbooks. I forwarded that email to Pyro and it is what we have in AH.

Standard:
150rpg for the 20mm
500rpg for the .303s

Overload:
175rpg for the 20mm
780rpg for the .303s

HTC may have had another source as well, but so far as I know I provided that data.

Furball · « **Reply #22 on:** March 22, 2006, 03:33:01 AM »

Karnak, did you know of this place?

http://www.dehavillandmuseum.co.uk/

Squire · « **Reply #23 on:** March 22, 2006, 03:38:19 AM »

Geez, I didnt even think to look at the date.

I was wondering why you were bringing it up Karnak, hehe. Oh well, no harm.

bozon · « **Reply #24 on:** March 22, 2006, 04:04:12 AM »

300 rpg x4 hispanos in the nose.... oh boy

500 rpg for the 303 is enough to kill every chute you see in an entire tour.

Bozon

hogenbor · « **Reply #25 on:** March 22, 2006, 06:04:14 AM »

300 rpg for 20mm

No flame dampers

FM fixed

Zippo tendencies eliminated

PERK THE MOSSIE!!!

Karnak · « **Reply #26 on:** March 22, 2006, 11:12:06 AM »

It did not have 300rpg.

The cannon ammo was held in two containers of 300 rounds with two cannons drawing from each container.

Some author at some point saw the 300 rounds in each container and assumed that each cannon had it's own container. That is false.

It is, as I listed above, 150rpg or an overload of 175rpg.

Scherf · « **Reply #27 on:** March 22, 2006, 03:31:38 PM »

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Originally posted by Squire
As for the rockets, the schematics clearly show that with a rocket load the wing pylons were not available for use, like the Typhoon.

That is not correct.

Double-row rocket rails (2 up, 2 down) could be fitted outboard of the drop tanks. As noted above, the drop tanks needed to be got rid of at least one minute ahead of firing the rockets.

Squire · « **Reply #28 on:** March 23, 2006, 01:14:04 AM »

For the "full meal deal" load you can't have rockets and wing pylons, but I have seen the 2 RP and DT/bomb load for both the Tiffie and Mossie, but those arent AH2 loads.

When they get around to redoing them, it wouldnt be a bad suggestion to add that loadout though.

Karnak · « **Reply #29 on:** March 23, 2006, 01:30:29 AM »

Squire,

The Mossie could take 8 rockets, two 500lb bombs and the DTs. That was only later when the improved rocket rails that stacked them came into service though.

The rails like we have in AH block it.