Aircraft Errors

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Aircraft Errors

  the Lavochkin error: Historically, all the La-5 and La-7 versions could carry a pair of 100kg bombs. In AH, the Lavochkin
                                      fighters can't carry any load.

         the MC.202 error: Historically, all MC.202 could carry 320kg of bombs. In AH, it can't carry any load.

    the A6M5 error: In AH, the Zero has not "attack" configuration, but can carry bombs, even 250kg as kamikadze did.

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[juzz]

To save time...

Ju 88A-4 had 1,000kg bombs, 20mm cannon etc - and couldn't carry bombs and torpedoes.
Fw 190A-8 had tons more stuff...
B-26B, B-17G and P-38L had 2,000lb bombs
P-47D-30 could NOT carry 3,400 rounds of .50in ammo, 10x5in rockets and 2,500lbs of bombs!(D-25 similarly so)
Spitfire VC had 2x250lb bombs and slipper tanks of 30 and 90 gallon size.

[hazed-]

(juzz the spitfireVC also had 4x20mm hispanos)
Ju88a4 bombload is 4409lb (2000kg) in books i have but may be wrong
macci 205v later versions had 20mm in wings instead of 7.7mm is ours the 205 veltro?
p51- had 2x1000lbs "or" 6x5in rockets
B26- anyone got a picture of the b26 with waste guns? mine dont show them.

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[This message has been edited by hazed- (edited 05-03-2001).]

[flakbait]

Hazed, our C.205 does have 20mm cannons in the wings. The C.202 started out with only a pair of 12.7mm MGs in the nose, later they added the 7.7mm MGs in the wings. One production run (no idea how many) had 20mm cannons in a gondola attachment ala Bf-109. The variants I've got listed are:

C.202: stock plane
C.202CB: fighter-bomber, provision for underwing bombs or droptanks. 705 lbs max load.
C.202AS: tropicalized variant


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[gatt]

Even if they added 2x7,7mm in the wings in later variants of the C.202, most pilots still removed them for better manoverability.
In RL 2x12,7mm were enuff to down Hurricanes, Spitfire MkV and light bombers.

Only 1 C.202 prototype had 2x20mm wing gondolas but was her performance was terrible, so tests were discontinued.

About 100 C.205 "Veltro" Ist Series had 2x12,7mm and 2x7,7mm in the wings. About 160 IIIrd Series had 2x12,7mm and 2x20mm in the wings. There was no IInd Series .

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[Tac]

P-38L could take TWO 2k bombs and 14 rockets too. *grin*    

[juzz]

One book I've seen claims nearly 8,000lbs as the maximum bombload for the Ju 88A-4.  

B-26B did have waist guns from the B-4 production block onward. The one in AH is a B-26B-25.

[Fishu]

Well, Ju-88 A-4 surely takes more bombs than just 2000kg.
It can take either 2x1000kg or 4x500kg (also mixed load of 500/250kg and 4x250kg, but 1000kg bombs were too big to fit more bombs) and then also fit some into the bombbay, so that would be fairly much over it.
(Perhaps those values were for external ordnance?)

I don't have books for accurate values right now (other than the internet sites) and those which I've read, are in the library... and of course those are closed at almost 4.40am.
(*figures* if those aren't borrowd already)

[Fatty]

Gatt, how many of the fighter-bomber version were produced?

Let me put bombs on a 202 and I'll have a new favorite osti-killer  

[R4M]

 

Originally posted by hazed-:
p51- had 2x1000lbs "or" 6x5in rockets

Similar problem with the P47Ds. Their wing load options are pure fiction  

Ju88 is missing teh 1000kg and 2000kg bombs (fishu I think hat the SC2000 could also be carried in the wing rack of the Ju88). The 20mm frontal cannon, AND (MOST importantly IMHO), the flexible-mounted 13mm heavy MG instead of the peashooters.

Fw190A8 and F8 miss the 1000kg bomb for central rack

Fw190A8 lacks the option to load wing gondolas with four MG151/20 cannons.

Fw190F8 lacks rockets, Drop tank, and 250kg bomb options for the wings.

Fw190A5 lacks the U3 long range Jabo option to remove MGs and outter cannon and carry wing DTs or 250Kg bombs.

Fw190A and Bf109 AA rockets time fuzed is WAY off.

All Fw190s should have the option to remove the cowl MGs   .

Me109G6/G10 lack the 3xmk108 30mm option.

Well I could say more but I think its more than enough for now  

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[gatt]

Fatty,
AFAIK very few C.202 were used as fighter-bomber. C.202 and C.205 were mainly used as escort and interceptors. CR-42, C.200, Re.2000 and Ju87 were used for A/G attacks. BTW, many books say she could carry up to 320Kg of bombs ....  

[Karnak]

My info says that the C.202, and by extension the C.205, could carry "two bombs up to 353lb (160kg) or tanks."

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[SFRT - Frenchy]

Juzz, Ram, some more allied propaganda :

           
           
           


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[VISCONTI]

Some info about the c202 topic:

 http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/Arena/8245/ricerche/index.html

[gatt]

Visc, nice pic! Who knows, eventually PYRO could have some pity for us Macchi flyers