Brewster B-239 and the I-16

[Baumer]

Thanks Pyro, they are great additions to the game! 

[Motherland]

Far as i can think, self-sealing tanks would not stop fire. The impact of the rounds into the fuel tank lights the fire. Self sealing tanks just slow down a fuel leak, ignition of contained fuel would be very similar at the time of impact. Possibly if anything, the SS tanks would put the fire out if it did not catch on the airframe. Just thinking, no info to back it up.

I'm no expert to say the least, but from what I understand the bladder of the SS tanks also collapsed as the fuel was used up to prevent the buildup of fumes and help to prevent fires.

[Baumer]

Here's a good WW2 video of self-sealing fuel tank demo.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1785081081357314567&ei=A6BKSvCGEI-SqAPTh7HXDw&q=self+sealing+fuel+tank&hl=en&emb=1

I don't think they would collapse on most planes, at least I know they don't on a B-17, B-25, FM-2 or B-24. However, reading the some aircraft manuals (I can't remember exactly which one's but I'll look it up) I've come across a CO2 pressure system to help with high altitude fuel pressure, that would definitely help reduce the fire hazard.

[Karnak]

A6M5 Zeroes (earlier Zeroes?) pumped engine exhast into the fuel tanks to reduce the chance of fuel fires.

I'd not be surprised if other aircraft did that as well.

[BnZs]

How is it double inferior?  It handles speed very much better, its guns are very much better, it is approximately as fast, it turns marginally worse at low speeds and far better at high speeds and it is much more durable. 

You know what double-superior means...superior in both turn performance and thrust/weight. They didn't make that the definition of double superior/inferior for nothing. These two are the core, other traits fall well behind these two as advantages in ACM. As well, the Zero has a higher top speed at most altitudes. The dive-handling on our Zekes is modeled so...optimistically that dive handling superiority hardly matters for anything except running away...you have to pretty much deliberately put the nose down with the coal poured on to get into real trouble with the Zeke, there is adequate warning, and pull out remain possible 'till damn near 400mph IAS!!!

The Brewster simply stands better than a snow-balls chance in Hell in a dogfight with a Zeke and can run away, that is all, that is all. Can't see how it ruins the scenario. (If having to fight the Brewster is not fair to the Zekes, then it is *really* not fair to the I-16s...)

It turns well enough that I am skeptical that the A6M2 will be able to pull enough lead in a turn fight to hit with the Type 99 Model 1 cannons.

Uh...Karnak? Are you feeling okay today my friend? Because it sounds like you just claimed it was impossible for an airplane with only slightly superior turn performance and iffy ballistics to get lead for guns solutions. Guess that must mean its *very* impossible for a K-4 to hit a Spit with the tater in a fight then. 

[vonKrimm]

The Brewster and I-16 in the beta are currently more durable than intended.

Thank goodness for that piece of info!  I hit a BREW with 8x20mm rounds (from the new typhoon of course!) & watched it skate away.

Thought HTC had done an Oleg on the Hispannios until now.

[Karnak]

Uh...Karnak? Are you feeling okay today my friend? Because it sounds like you just claimed it was impossible for an airplane with only slightly superior turn performance and iffy ballistics to get lead for guns solutions. Guess that must mean its *very* impossible for a K-4 to hit a Spit with the tater in a fight then. 

Read what I wrote again and you'll see I mader no such claim.  I was specific about the type of fight in which the hit might not be possible.

[moot]

That doesn't jive with what I've heard of the Brewster.. It's supposed to be on par with the zeke.  The 99mk1 cannons are no comparison with the Brewster's 4x50 unless the measure is strictly a single 1:1 fight between a Brewster and Zeke-2.  The Browning 50s compared to those limp 20mm... I mean come on

[Die Hard]

If you look at Tony Williams web site the .50 cal Browning has a gun power of 60, while the 20mm Type 99 has a gun power of 120. So with the two Type 97's in addition to the 99's the A6M comes out on top in firepower. Ballistics is another matter...

[Angus]

Moot, the 50 cal's rely on the energy, while the cannon shells are explosive, so range comes into the issue.
Not to mention the other side of the coin, - the ruggedness of the target....

[Wmaker]

From friday a week ago:











Sorry for the bit too high jpeg-compression...

A dream come true!

[Widewing]

Wmaker, I am truly thrilled for you guys. I'm sure the Beta arena will be the focus during the "Mosquito Meeting".

Have fun gents!



My regards,

Widewing

[Kazaa]

Seems to me that the I16 out does the Brew in a turn fight.

[Widewing]

Seems to me that the I16 out does the Brew in a turn fight.

Who did you fly against? I've tested both. The Brewster's turn radius is about 15% less than the I-16 with both having flaps out. I ate up a couple of I-16s without much effort. That reflected the quality of the pilots more than the airplane. Drop by the beta when the Finns are on.


My regards,

Widewing

[moot]

Moot, the 50 cal's rely on the energy, while the cannon shells are explosive, so range comes into the issue.
Not to mention the other side of the coin, - the ruggedness of the target....

Yes, and the ballistics of those type1 cannons are...