Good reason to have a conceal and carry permit......

[Apeotomy]

See Rule #5

[Steve]

See Rule #2

[Toad]

See Rule #2

[Apeotomy]

See Rule #2

[Jouster]

Jouster, I hope your posts were in jest, like a funny troll thing. They just don't fly. At all.

No, Rollins they are not in jest. I was genuinely trying to add to the discussion as I have no time to waste trolling. Please explain what doesn't fly at all because I am basing my post on my own research into the constitution, the federalist papers, criminal behavior and firearm law.

If I am incorrect or have poor information I would be glad to have you point me in the right direction.

[Rollins]

By no means are they as far off base as some of the other posts in here suggesting the Grizzly Bear attack defense.  They just come across as speculative rather than spoken from actual experience.
Excuse me if I took it as a mild attempt at trolling, I must have been mistaken.

[Die Hard]

I'd rather defend myself and go to prison for it if necessary, than be dead. Obvious really.

[Steve]

I'd rather defend myself and go to prison for it if necessary, than be dead. Obvious really.

I'd rather be judged by 12 than carried by 6(refers to pallbearers)

[BigPlay]

A warning shot is just a wasted round.


If you pull your weapon, you better dam well be ready to take someones life if you have to.


If you honestly believe those teenagers would stand and fight if the victim pulled a gun and used it, then you should ask yourself why they showed up with such a large group to attack him with in the first place...

A number of years ago I traveled  quite a bit in my car. My parents owned a house on the Colorado river and I use to go there at least every other weekend. One day I was traveling with a number of friends in other cars in a caravan. One car had to make an unscheduled stop on the freeway so we all stopped. Now there is 4 hours of deserted desert to where we were going. While stopped a California Highway Patrol car stopped and parked behind the caravan, he asked if everything was OK and we said yes. He then told us that you never want to stop along this stretch of highway because many people have ended up missing while being broken down. Needless to say I started to carry a side arm everytime I went to the river.

One day my wife and I were going snow skiing to Mammoth Mountain. We were almost there and it was 2am when around the next corner standing in the middle of the street was a guy  there with nothing on but blue jeans covered from head to toe with blood. I stopped abut 50 feet from him. He started walking towards me , I put the car in reverse and was backing up all the while yelling at him to stop and not come any closer. He said nothing and kept walking towards the car. I then told him that I had a gun and I would shoot him if he didn't stop. He then told me that he and his friend rolled their car and needed help, I then saw the car upsidedown on the side of the road. There was a fire station just around the next corner and I told them I would stop and tell them about the accident. When I told the firemen about the accident they said they knew about it and were letting them sober up. They were local boys and apparently OK.

Now that was the closest I have even come to actually shooting someone. I had always learned that if you do pull a weapon on someone ..... plan on using it. I'm glad that I did not pull my sidearm.

[stodd]

never fire a warning shot.

The "warning shot" to the gang is seeing the first one drop.

[Jouster]

I see what you are saying Rollins.

I'll tell you why I think deeply about these issues, because I work as an armored car messenger. Since I carry a gun everyday, if I hadn't already made the decision to defend myself when neccessary, it would be too late to make that decision if I were attacked, which is a somewhat higher probability than the average person. not that much higher though where I live.

Most people never have to think about these issues and can tend to be extremely emotionally charged about them. I am emotionally invested in them I assure you, but on a more practical level than most, excluding military and emergency personnel.

I was just trying to add another somewhat educated post to the mix, but I digress since this is getting way off topic now.  sorry to hijack.

[TonyJoey]

Our family has an Indian Spear and is not afraid to use it againt unsuspecting burglars.