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Offline trigger2

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Re: This will make you MAD!!!!
« Reply #45 on: July 16, 2009, 11:39:41 PM »
The girl was to blame for how it went. The cop should have been big enough to do his job not worry about swearing but we don't know how many prank calls he got that week, or that day.

If this situation is to be avoided again then teenagers should be trained in how to relay an important message without threatening to sue the people they want help from. I dont blame the cop at all, I feel sorry for him that this will hurt his carear so badly. Stupid little girl doesn't even care that her tantrum will cost a man and his familly their lively hood.

I go midway between this comment.
The officer should have maintained professionalism, he should have calmed her down enough to find out what's wrong. On the other hand, she should have known to wait for the officer and when he DID arrive to say something along the lines of, "Sir, my dad's inside having a seizure, he got out of surgery not long ago." In which case a medical team would have been brought to the area ASAP. Where instead her continued "flamebaiting" just made the officer want to cooperate even less. An officer (at least in the state of Oregon) has the right to refuse medical attention to anyone, a medic doesn't. If he was in Oregon, he'd be within the law, but I don't think he woulda gotten much sleep that night... Although his reaction was completely unnecessary, and I think that a suspension should be in order.
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Re: This will make you MAD!!!!
« Reply #46 on: July 17, 2009, 12:53:13 AM »
She handled it just like a normal person would have. Those that said she handled it wrong have probably never been in an emergency like that. For all she knew her father was dieing in front of her. The first words out of the ''officer's'' month should have been  ''Okay 'mam calm down. What is the emergency''. If he was a professional he would have known that people panic when in a stressfull situation. After being asked to send an ambulance three times and hanging up three times he finally asks for one and lies about what happened.


IMO he should be made to apologize in public, fired for unprofessionalism, then arrested. After that the family should sue him for his 62k/yr.


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Re: This will make you MAD!!!!
« Reply #47 on: July 17, 2009, 06:36:25 AM »
Where did I infer that I was concerned with what you think?

Nice that you can come on here and ridicule instead of putting down an actual thought..



Ok brainiac,

You must think the same of the military?

Hell, they get to go to other countries and enforce their will on people, and they get bigger weapons and get to blow up more stuff.  Ask them why they joined and I bet a good majority say either 'I get to blow s**t up' or 'The uniform looks awesome'.


I felt 100x more power in the Corps than I do in a patrol car.

Now, continue your Pig rant...
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Re: This will make you MAD!!!!
« Reply #48 on: July 17, 2009, 07:55:31 AM »
Ok brainiac,

You must think the same of the military?

Hell, they get to go to other countries and enforce their will on people, and they get bigger weapons and get to blow up more stuff.  Ask them why they joined and I bet a good majority say either 'I get to blow s**t up' or 'The uniform looks awesome'.


I felt 100x more power in the Corps than I do in a patrol car.

Now, continue your Pig rant...

One could make the argument that in a Republic, it's the citizens' job to distrust the police and military.  That doesn't mean you can't be appreciative, however.
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Re: This will make you MAD!!!!
« Reply #49 on: July 17, 2009, 08:16:59 AM »
I go midway between this comment.
The officer should have maintained professionalism, he should have calmed her down enough to find out what's wrong. On the other hand, she should have known to wait for the officer and when he DID arrive to say something along the lines of, "Sir, my dad's inside having a seizure, he got out of surgery not long ago." In which case a medical team would have been brought to the area ASAP. Where instead her continued "flamebaiting" just made the officer want to cooperate even less. An officer (at least in the state of Oregon) has the right to refuse medical attention to anyone, a medic doesn't. If he was in Oregon, he'd be within the law, but I don't think he woulda gotten much sleep that night... Although his reaction was completely unnecessary, and I think that a suspension should be in order.

normally, your posts make a lot of sense, and are good. this one isn't one of them.

 you type this as if you think everyone knows how to remain calm when faced with what they believe to be the impending death of a loved one. on top of that, she's only 17. probably daddys girl too, and he probably sheltered her all of her life. accordingly, she has no clue how to deal with such an emergency. hell, how many adults would remain calm in that situation? very few i would imagine.
 i'm 47. mom is 68 and diabetic. she stays with me for 1/2 of the year, then goes to stay with my brother. if she was up here, and i came home from a hard 12 hour day(i worked 14 hours yesterday, and it was 110F+ in the shop) found mom on the kitchen floor, i'd be kinda "wound up" as i dialed 911 too. hard day, mom dying......the person on the other end dam well better just get someone out here, regardless of how i act. i'll deal with the consequences after mom's safe.


 i thinnk one of the problems, is that a lot here have forgotten what it is like to be young. had the officer simply done what(i think) is part of the job of 911 operators, and did his best to calm her, and simply get the ambulance out there, he could've admonished her(or preferably explained to her why she was wrong in her actions, and taught her to deal with emergency better for next time) later.

 it's not the operators decision as to whether or not to dispatch an ambulance. it's their job to get it out there when one is requested, especially on an emergency line. again, admonish later if it wasn't really needed.

 
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Re: This will make you MAD!!!!
« Reply #50 on: July 17, 2009, 10:15:24 AM »
It is perplexing that some think that someone who swears on the phone do not have the same rights as people who don't. She said "what the [insert most popular swear word]" and was mid sentence when the cop answered. For that some people apparently thinks she deserved no help from out tax-funded emergency services, and in fact deserved to potentially watch her dad die on the floor. Not to mention the rights of her dad. LEO's are public servants payed for by the taxpayers; they are supposed to call me sir, not the other way around. Ungrateful [insert most popular swear word].
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Re: This will make you MAD!!!!
« Reply #51 on: July 17, 2009, 10:17:33 AM »
It is perplexing that some think that someone who swears on the phone do not have the same rights as people who don't. She said "what the [insert most popular swear word]" and was mid sentence when the cop answered. For that some people apparently thinks she deserved no help from out tax-funded emergency services, and in fact deserved to potentially watch her dad die on the floor. Not to mention the rights of her dad. LEO's are public servants payed for by the taxpayers; they are supposed to call me sir, not the other way around. Ungrateful [insert most popular swear word].

actually in my younger dumber days.......i used to piss off quite a few officers with the "sir" thing. call em that too much....like at the end of every sentence........

 now adays, though, IF i do somethign to get stopped, i just behave, as i don't need the extra hassle.
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Re: This will make you MAD!!!!
« Reply #52 on: July 17, 2009, 10:47:58 AM »
ROFL, Officer Nancy can't deal with other people cursing, but has no problem cursing himself lol. What a love muffin.

Anyhow, given the circumstances of her call and his position as a dispatcher, she may have a decent IIED case. I don't care one way or the other about what administrative punishment the officer may or may not get, but if he's found guilty of a tort he should certainly have to pay for it. And of course, you shouldn't be arrested for fictitious crimes. Hopefully we can all agree on that lol.

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Re: This will make you MAD!!!!
« Reply #53 on: July 17, 2009, 10:58:20 AM »
I think it's time to retire. Stupid POS.
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Re: This will make you MAD!!!!
« Reply #54 on: July 17, 2009, 11:02:23 AM »
The officer should be disciplined and the stupid girl should be too. No excuse for her stupid foul mouth.

Society shouldn't have to accept the F-word as just another adjective.

Letting one slip from time to time is forgivable, but I'm guessing it's normally a huge part of her low class, stupid vocabulary.

When I was her age I wasn't so conditioned to talk that way that I was totally unable to refrain from it in any situation.

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Re: This will make you MAD!!!!
« Reply #55 on: July 17, 2009, 11:07:05 AM »
Freedom of speech Jimson.

She's a heroine in my book. She went to extraordinary lengths to get help for her father, and stood up for her rights.
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Re: This will make you MAD!!!!
« Reply #56 on: July 17, 2009, 11:10:57 AM »
The officer should be disciplined and the stupid girl should be too. No excuse for her stupid foul mouth.

Society shouldn't have to accept the F-word as just another adjective.

Letting one slip from time to time is forgivable, but I'm guessing it's normally a huge part of her low class, stupid vocabulary.

When I was her age I wasn't so conditioned to talk that way that I was totally unable to refrain from it in any situation.

I could be wrong, but from the report it sounded like her "wtf" was when she called back after being hung up on the first time. When 911 hangs up on you while you think your dad is dying... I think that's a situation where wtf is justified lol. I find it interesting that they don't play the first phone call.

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Re: This will make you MAD!!!!
« Reply #57 on: July 17, 2009, 11:28:43 AM »
Certainly can't defend the guy for hanging up on her, any other situation I'd applaud him, but this was possibly life or death. You just can't do that.

Still, when he asks her not to swear, her response is "ok, send me an f!!ng ambulance!"

She didn't swear once out of excitement. She just kept doing it, so she is also a jerk in my opinion.
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Re: This will make you MAD!!!!
« Reply #58 on: July 17, 2009, 11:34:30 AM »
In most cases, including this one, being a jerk is not illegal and certainly does not invalidate your civil and constitutional rights.
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Re: This will make you MAD!!!!
« Reply #59 on: July 17, 2009, 11:41:12 AM »
In most cases, including this one, being a jerk is not illegal and certainly does not invalidate your civil and constitutional rights.

True, and If there is no crime, she shouldn't be charged, but I'm still not gonna laud her as some kind of heroine.