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Offline Die Hard

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Re: This will make you MAD!!!!
« Reply #60 on: July 17, 2009, 11:53:58 AM »
A 17 year old girl stood up to a cop that refused to help her dad and verbally abused her. She then rushed to the local police headquarters to get help, but instead gets arrested on trumped-up and fictitious charges. If she doesn't deserve your respect, then you don't deserve mine.
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Re: This will make you MAD!!!!
« Reply #61 on: July 17, 2009, 11:56:39 AM »
this isn't etiquette 101, this is 911.

hanging up on anyone in an emergency situation without knowing the extent of the emergency is beyond unprofessional, it is a breach of the general trust that the public places in
these officers and it's too high of a risk to keep anyone who cannot handle a simple teenager with calmness in such a critical position.

to arrest her for trying to file a complaint?

that's a flagrant abuse of power.

accomodations or not, this exposes his own weakness and puts the others who do this very difficult job in a bad light.

i say, fire his bellybutton and never look back.













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Re: This will make you MAD!!!!
« Reply #62 on: July 17, 2009, 12:43:39 PM »
A 17 year old girl stood up to a cop that refused to help her dad and verbally abused her. She then rushed to the local police headquarters to get help, but instead gets arrested on trumped-up and fictitious charges. If she doesn't deserve your respect, then you don't deserve mine.
I listened to the call again. In the first one, he calmly told her she didn't need to swear and asked her to slow down. She responded with profanity. In subsequent calls when he asked her not to swear, she again responded with profanity.

I have already said the officer was at fault, but if you can listen to that and think she was acting correctly, then we can agree to disagree.

I'll live without your respect, but you still have mine.
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Re: This will make you MAD!!!!
« Reply #63 on: July 17, 2009, 01:17:52 PM »
I'm of the opinion that respect has to be earned, and I don't know what I've done to deserve yours. That aside, if a 17 year old girl runs up to me in the street yelling "what the twittle, I need an ambulance!", I'd say "oh my God! What the twittle is wrong and what can I do to help... HONEY! CALL 911!". I wouldn't say "Don't swear you stupid ass! You're a buffoon!" and just dismiss her. If something similar had happened to me and a loved one died as a result I would seriously be considering murdering that LEO.
« Last Edit: July 17, 2009, 01:36:22 PM by Die Hard »
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Re: This will make you MAD!!!!
« Reply #64 on: July 17, 2009, 01:19:59 PM »
Ok brainiac,

You must think the same of the military?

Hell, they get to go to other countries and enforce their will on people, and they get bigger weapons and get to blow up more stuff.  Ask them why they joined and I bet a good majority say either 'I get to blow s**t up' or 'The uniform looks awesome'.


I felt 100x more power in the Corps than I do in a patrol car.

Now, continue your Pig rant...

My wife's cousin has been a Nurse in the Navy for 16 years..  Bet ya she and all her colleagues joined so she could "blow s**t up", eh?
One of my best buddies I went to Chef school with has been cooking in the Navy for almost 12 years..  The Navy paid for his all of his
culinary training..  He's an executive chef now and cooks for major functions within the military..  Bet ya he joined so he could "blow s**t up" too, huh?

Perhaps this signifies the caliber of persons that you and I associate with..  Most people I know joined the military (including myself) for financial reasons(college)
or professional reasons(led to believe by recruiters that their training carried over in civilian life and would help them get a job, which it did not unfortunately)..

Your post has just solidified my opinion on the majority of police and why they become a cops..  Thank you..
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Re: This will make you MAD!!!!
« Reply #65 on: July 17, 2009, 01:44:12 PM »
I'm of the opinion that respect has to be earned, and I don't know what I've done to deserve yours. That aside, if a 17 year old girl runs up to me in the street yelling "what the twittle, I need an ambulance!", I'd say "oh my God! What the twittle is wrong and what can I do to help... HONEY! CALL 911!". I wouldn't say "Don't swear you stupid ass! Your a buffoon!" and just dismiss her. If something similar had happened to me and a loved one died as a result I would seriously be considering murdering that LEO.



I just see no reason to deny respect over a disagreement.
 
I guess I just have a pet peeve with people dropping F-bombs as if it was just another regular word to be used in any conversation.

I've always felt that was rude and disrespectful. Perhaps that is why she rubbed me the wrong way.

I think we can all agree that there is no excuse for this guy to hang up on her.

I don't see how anyone could do that in a possible life or death situation.

« Last Edit: July 17, 2009, 01:49:22 PM by jimson »

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Re: This will make you MAD!!!!
« Reply #66 on: July 17, 2009, 02:02:03 PM »
I use the word in question quite often, but only as an explicative. That girl had every reason to be explicative about the situation.
It is better to be violent, if there is violence in our hearts, than to put on the cloak of nonviolence to cover impotence.

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Re: This will make you MAD!!!!
« Reply #67 on: July 17, 2009, 02:06:07 PM »
   Can him.

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Re: This will make you MAD!!!!
« Reply #68 on: July 17, 2009, 02:21:31 PM »
My wife's cousin has been a Nurse in the Navy for 16 years..  Bet ya she and all her colleagues joined so she could "blow s**t up", eh?
One of my best buddies I went to Chef school with has been cooking in the Navy for almost 12 years..  The Navy paid for his all of his
culinary training..  He's an executive chef now and cooks for major functions within the military..  Bet ya he joined so he could "blow s**t up" too, huh?

Perhaps this signifies the caliber of persons that you and I associate with..  Most people I know joined the military (including myself) for financial reasons(college)
or professional reasons(led to believe by recruiters that their training carried over in civilian life and would help them get a job, which it did not unfortunately)..

Your post has just solidified my opinion on the majority of police and why they become a cops..  Thank you..



You know about 0 when it comes to Police and why they become such, your posts solidified my opinion on that.  Thank you...


A chef and a nurse... really...?


'The caliber of persons that you and I associate with'...  You mean POGs v. infantry...I thought you sounded stuck up...


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Re: This will make you MAD!!!!
« Reply #69 on: July 17, 2009, 02:27:27 PM »
as a kid I joined for the benefits. As an adult I came back in to blow toejam up.

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Re: This will make you MAD!!!!
« Reply #70 on: July 17, 2009, 02:39:12 PM »
Bottom line here is simple.

1) 911 is an emergency response number
2) A call and formal request for an ambulance was received
3) the caller was abusive and/or agitated

Accordingly the officer should have immediately rolled the ambulance as per the request BECAUSE the caller was either agitated or it was an abuse of system call. He then could elect to either roll a uniform initially or wait for confirmation of a "false alarm". The statistical curve on survivability in 911 scenario's is measured in minutes and there is no place for his preconspetions or prejudices.

If in fact his prior service record is as pristine as indicated then a letter of reprimand and counseling is more then sufficient. Whats important is that a clear and fair message clearly outlining the reality that any 911 operator responds on the assumption that the call is valid till proven otherwise.

When you call 911 you the right to expect a professional on the other end, even if your a foul mouthed teenage twit... 

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Re: This will make you MAD!!!!
« Reply #71 on: July 17, 2009, 03:06:08 PM »
Humble, if those were his only mistakes... He also falsified reports, lied to the emergency personnel about his conversations with the girl, illegally arrested the girl on trumped-up and fictitious charges, and in doing all this he recklessly endangered a man's life.
It is better to be violent, if there is violence in our hearts, than to put on the cloak of nonviolence to cover impotence.

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Re: This will make you MAD!!!!
« Reply #72 on: July 17, 2009, 04:14:54 PM »
Granted, being a clerk at a retail store
is considered menial job and some would see the clerk as deserving of the BS that comes with the territory.. 

Boy, talk about a superiority complex.



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Re: This will make you MAD!!!!
« Reply #73 on: July 17, 2009, 04:38:01 PM »

You know about 0 when it comes to Police and why they become such, your posts solidified my opinion on that.  Thank you...


A chef and a nurse... really...?


'The caliber of persons that you and I associate with'...  You mean POGs v. infantry...I thought you sounded stuck up...


Every Marine Ive ever talked to has said one of those 2 reasons, and a majority of the Army pukes (even though their uniforms are disgusting)


"You know about 0 when it comes to Police and why they become such, your posts solidified my opinion on that.  Thank you..."
The less you think I know, the better....   :D

For the "caliber of persons" comment, I was merely pointing out the difference that most of the people you spoke with on their reasons for joining were basically opposite of why I joined as well as the rest of my friends/family/associates who served..  The reality of the fact is that you joined to blow stuff up while others had a bit more forward thinking of a view..
Doesn't signify greater intelligence, but it does signify maturity to a degree..  I realize that was probably some time ago and you probably have a completely different outlook now..

However, "be advised"..  I don't trust you people..  I have my reasons many of which would be to insulting..  Deal with it..


  
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Re: This will make you MAD!!!!
« Reply #74 on: July 17, 2009, 04:41:36 PM »
Boy, talk about a superiority complex.



I'm only conveying the reality of the situation..  No where did I say this is what I thought personally..
Also, you've taken what I've said out of context..  What I was trying to convey was that retail sales people
as well as customer service reps in any industry are held to a higher standard than cops for significantly less money..  In fact, I stated this plainly..
But you refused to add it only to propagate what ever your position is, if you have one..
« Last Edit: July 17, 2009, 04:44:59 PM by Anodizer »
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