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Re: Hard Times for N. Korea
« Reply #45 on: July 22, 2009, 04:00:35 PM »
All I'm saying is that I don't give a rat's arse about the smoke screen, because it will remain there, without him "attacking".   Even China has tightened the leash on them since.   There have been no attacks in the past, since 53.   Pot shots on the DMZ or in the tunnels, not included as it will continue to happen.   

Where there's smoke....

Im happy to have people watching instead of people raising "No Fear" bumperstickers and telling those concerned they are living in fear.

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Re: Hard Times for N. Korea
« Reply #46 on: July 22, 2009, 09:21:16 PM »
They aren't "brainwashed".   The only people I see brainwashed are the paranoids.   Especially after NK threatens Japan a helluva lot more than SK.   But the US/SK always gets mentioned more.   

Give it up.   You're taking for granted what the NK people are like, by hearing spoon fed BS from our media.   Again, the majority of that population doesn't want War.   I am smart, but I don't live my life in fear and never will.   
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Re: Hard Times for N. Korea
« Reply #47 on: July 23, 2009, 03:00:17 PM »
I read "we will see" and "I hope"....Obviously you could understand someone keeping eyes on something you yourself are not sure about.

in a way yes. im sure we will see things calm down because in every succession the first 5 years or so its not the new 'king' that is in control but the cronies his dad left behind. In those 5 or so years they will saber rattle to keep the status quo then it will calm down as the new leader's policies start to take hold... and given the state of things i'm betting it will calm down significantly to receive foreign aid... you know, the ol' 'im not my dad let me prove it to you, give me aid' type of deal.

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Potential isolation has stopped many attacks.  Many have gone on till the bloody end without hesitation.

Like cuba ... but hey, now that castro is fading away things are starting to change. Like Cuba, N.Korea no longer has the backing of the USSR or China like they did in the cold war days... things in N.Korea are very different than from when the cancer ridden dear leader took power from his daddy... the new leader is inheriting a crapped out country which the world is not very happy with, with no support from a major world power. His options are few and, like Cuba, perhaps the best way to go is to open up a little bit to improve the situation at home (and keep himself in power). Once that door is open you are likely to see the same thing that happened to the USSR: a cascade effect in their society once exposed to better things and ideas.

of course, thats me being hopeful. The other alternative is the land to the north of seoul being radioactive for a very long time or n. korea remaining a whiny starving country that specializes in saber rattling.

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Re: Hard Times for N. Korea
« Reply #48 on: July 30, 2009, 05:28:44 PM »
His options are few and, like Cuba, perhaps the best way to go is to open up a little bit to improve the situation at home (and keep himself in power). Once that door is open you are likely to see the same thing that happened to the USSR: a cascade effect in their society once exposed to better things and ideas.


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Re: Hard Times for N. Korea
« Reply #49 on: July 30, 2009, 06:56:01 PM »
Psssst.  The idea for N. Korea's government originated in the West. ;)
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Re: Hard Times for N. Korea
« Reply #50 on: July 30, 2009, 07:05:18 PM »

Who would've thought a burger would be the Western world's best weapon.  :aok

It should be, its been killing us americans for YEARS!  :D



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Re: Hard Times for N. Korea
« Reply #51 on: July 30, 2009, 10:20:13 PM »

Yay I quote myself ;)


http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090730/ap_on_re_as/as_nkorea_fast_food

It has begun. First step towards capitalism. This is the way it begun in the USSR, in their satellite Euro states... in Cuba.. and now in N. Korea.

Who would've thought a burger would be the Western world's best weapon.  :aok

Too bad none of the regular citizens could ever afford anything(possibly a napkin or a piece of toilet paper, maybe even a straw if they save their wŏn for a few years)..
The places are for show and nothing more..  An overwhelming majority of Pyongyang's population are state employees which are also members of "The Party"..  They can
afford such things a few times a month..  Like Pyongyang's streets, this place won't see many people either..  It sure is going to be a great propaganda tool for the tour guides
to show tourists, though!

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Re: Hard Times for N. Korea
« Reply #52 on: July 30, 2009, 10:35:40 PM »
Psssst.  The idea for N. Korea's government originated in the West. ;)

I don't agree based on what I know..  I am very familiar with Korean Peninsula history..  Please explain how the idea for North Korea's government originated in the West...
I'm quite curious how you came to this conclusion..
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Re: Hard Times for N. Korea
« Reply #53 on: July 31, 2009, 03:41:10 AM »
I don't agree based on what I know..  I am very familiar with Korean Peninsula history..  Please explain how the idea for North Korea's government originated in the West...
I'm quite curious how you came to this conclusion..
Some people say random things to sound smart :rolleyes:
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Re: Hard Times for N. Korea
« Reply #54 on: July 31, 2009, 04:14:40 AM »
I don't agree based on what I know..  I am very familiar with Korean Peninsula history..  Please explain how the idea for North Korea's government originated in the West...
I'm quite curious how you came to this conclusion..

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Re: Hard Times for N. Korea
« Reply #55 on: July 31, 2009, 10:24:52 AM »
Marx.

 
Yes, and Pizza Hut has Pizza....


:rolleyes:
In the extreme most generalized sense, what you're saying is partially true..  But that's also like saying the sky is blue or c-a-t spells cat..  C'mon....  LoL
They are things that even most mildly informed people know and not very enlightening...

I suggest you read up on why North Korea is the way it is..  It's much more interesting to actually know the historical details than to say "DPRK IS COMMUNIST BECAUSE MARX"... 
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Re: Hard Times for N. Korea
« Reply #56 on: July 31, 2009, 10:27:25 AM »
Some people say random things to sound smart :rolleyes:

Regretfully, I'd have to agree.... :frown:
And it's such a shame..  The whole history behind why there's a North and the South is quite interesting
and starts well before WWII..
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Re: Hard Times for N. Korea
« Reply #57 on: July 31, 2009, 10:37:56 AM »
:rolleyes:
In the extreme most generalized sense, that is partially true..  But that's also like saying the sky is blue or c-a-t spells cat..  C'mon....  LoL
They are things that most mildly informed people know and not very enlightening... :lol 

I suggest you read up on why North Korea is the way it is..  It's much more interesting to actually know the historical details.. :)

In the sense of the word "origin," it is true that N. Korea's government is a Western idea, and not in a generalized or partially true way.
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Re: Hard Times for N. Korea
« Reply #58 on: July 31, 2009, 10:54:46 AM »
If the US was not concerned about NK possibly making a ,ilitary venture into the South, then the US would not be moving it's first rate fighters into Japan and ensuring that Guided Missile Cruisers, DDG's, and FFG's are close by.

Anyone saying that the NK's are not a serious threat to the safety of South Korea and the region in general is only fooling themselves.  NK, with it's current leader, will become more volatile the less food and resources they have.  The runt will start a war before he loses power, that's a given.
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Re: Hard Times for N. Korea
« Reply #59 on: July 31, 2009, 11:02:35 AM »

Yes, and Pizza Hut has Pizza....
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:rolleyes:
In the extreme most generalized sense, what you're saying is partially true..  But that's also like saying the sky is blue or c-a-t spells cat..  C'mon....  LoL
They are things that even most mildly informed people know and not very enlightening...

I suggest you read up on why North Korea is the way it is..  It's much more interesting to actually know the historical details than to say "DPRK IS COMMUNIST BECAUSE MARX"... 

That's not what he said. He said "the idea for N. Korea's government originated in the West". I suggest you learn to read. The idea of communism originated in the west, and Marx is considered the "father" of modern communism.
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