Crazy French Pilots..wow

[Golfer]

I had a snazzy reply and was getting links, cases and references together but it's not worth it even on this lazy afternoon.

Since there seems to be some confusion about "he" if you're referring to some hypothetical guy who doesn't really exist then sure.  Assuming he owns his airplane.  Assuming he doens't carry passengers.  Assuming he's not flying over someone elses property.  Assuming a lot of things.

If you're referring to cpxxx's love muffin associate then not only is it no, it's hell no.

[Strip]

      You guys are really stretching "flying low" into aerobatic maneuver or even aggressive flight. Flying that low does not induce more stress on the aircraft than other routine tasks. So to argue he is endangering potential buyers is a little out there. I also fail to see how "flying low" effects instrumentation more than any other task. If I make a level pass on the field do the instruments care whether I am at 5 feet or 50? If you want to argue the endangerment to people and property while he is flying that is fine. Lets not get so far out there that a simple low pass is overstressing an aircraft. If you do in theory any maneuver other than a simple banking turn or descent/ascent could be called into question. This of course not even counting other aggressive/training flight like spin-recovery and stall-recovery. These of course DO put more stress on the aircraft than any gentle low pass. If the guy is yanking and banking I would agree with you completely. Since it was not specifically stated I am assuming he was just coming in low.....

Strip

[Die Hard]

I had a snazzy reply and was getting links, cases and references together but it's not worth it even on this lazy afternoon.

Since there seems to be some confusion about "he" if you're referring to some hypothetical guy who doesn't really exist then sure.  Assuming he owns his airplane.  Assuming he doens't carry passengers.  Assuming he's not flying over someone elses property.  Assuming a lot of things.

If you're referring to cpxxx's love muffin associate then not only is it no, it's hell no.

The legal text is clear and unambiguous. "No person may operate an aircraft in a careless or reckless manner so as to endanger the life or property of another."

The limit of the law is: "Aircraft operations for the purpose of air navigation."

The prohibition part of the law is: "No person may operate an aircraft in a careless or reckless manner"

The law's legal definition of "a careless or reckless manner" is: "To endanger the life or property of another."

As long as he's outside of controlled airspace and endangers no one but himself and his own property he can do pretty much whatever he wants.

[Golfer]

outside of controlled airspace and endangers no one but himself and his own property he can do pretty much whatever he wants.

I'm referring to cpxxx's individual and have all along.  You haven't been.  The catalyst for your broken record has been my statement of what he does in the air does affect those on the ground.  This is 100% true and not up for debate.

I had a little bleed over from a separate discussion that is going on about doing aerobatics in airplanes not approved for such.  Including in business jets, with passengers and during revenue flights.  I've been pre-primed to address those issues because the behavior of our love muffin who wants to tie the record for lowest flying pilot is just the beginning for ultra melons who do the same.  At any rate I lost track of which discussion was going on where.

[Latrobe]

I always love watching videos on jets flying low to the ground. Nothing quite like it!

This is one of my favorites. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e35U7P_bfzI

[Die Hard]

I'm referring to cpxxx's individual and have all along.  You haven't been.

Then why did you start off by quoting my clearly conditional statement?

As long as he's outside of controlled airspace and endangers no one but himself and his own property he has the God given right to do whatever he wants, including losing his own life. That's my opinion.

Conditions which I later learned the person in question did not meet, and as Cpxxx and I had already agreed on before you entered the discussion. Why did you quote me if you were not referring to my statement?

[Die Hard]

I always love watching videos on jets flying low to the ground. Nothing quite like it!

This is one of my favorites. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e35U7P_bfzI

Some of that video is taken from this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3tf_YPfVU8

Interesting insight to the many uses of the French IR targeting system.

[Denholm]

Golfer, I don't believe Die Hard will get the point. After all, if he promotes a hard death, why would he support your claim?

[Die Hard]

All I care about is the law and what's right. I'm a fairly libertarian kinda guy.

[cpxxx]

The debate got interesting. However all this has stirred me to think seriously again about crimping his antics. I will have a chat with his brother, who is a Commercial pilot and ask him to have a word. At the very least, he needs to stop buzzing the public area. That won't prevent him doing it when no one is around.

[Plawranc]

they are trying to been cool like americans pilots

And Americas pilots are trying to be cool like the Swiss pilots

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJD4KlmF3Ag&feature=PlayList&p=237EFC2AE626522C&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=11

[BMathis]

You are absolutely correct but he buzzed me while sitting there with a load of innocent customers on board. He also buzzes the public area. That's the problem. It's one thing to fly low over Chad or down the runway as I have done but that's different.  He does endanger other people and ignores warnings. That's the problem. 

Die Hard. Your wrong.

[Die Hard]

Die Hard. Your wrong.

BMathis, welcome to page two.

That's very different, I agree.

How could you not notice my reply to Cpxxx immediately after his post?

[BMathis]

 

Oh you're so right! How dumb of me. I never even saw your posts. I'm just posting to be heard, and so everyone can read what I say. No reason to look any further than the 1st post, right?

[expat]

Die Hard
Suppose this guy does crash , on his own land , at some point fire brigade and medic's are going to get involved , they are going to have to risk thier own lives trying to help the pilot .