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Offline smokey23

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Re: What happened to the sherman?????
« Reply #120 on: August 01, 2009, 01:22:55 PM »
Wouldnt it make things clear if pyro or skuzzy chimed in and said wether or not the sherman has been remodeled for the new version. This would probly put this entire discussion to rest. just a thought

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Re: What happened to the sherman?????
« Reply #121 on: August 01, 2009, 01:28:13 PM »
I think Snailman is right nothing has changed, but perception. I too have to use a little more elevation of all my shots in a Sherman. Think it is not so much the trajectory, but our perceptions that we were used to in gauging distance with size of target in our turret view. The enhanced graphics probably is the contributing factor. Course I could be way off here. I mean I had to start wearing reading glasses just to see those lil bitty targets from way off.   :P
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Re: What happened to the sherman?????
« Reply #122 on: August 01, 2009, 02:52:36 PM »
Wouldnt it make things clear if pyro or skuzzy chimed in and said wether or not the sherman has been remodeled for the new version. This would probly put this entire discussion to rest. just a thought

I seriously doubt that.


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Re: What happened to the sherman?????
« Reply #123 on: August 01, 2009, 03:33:19 PM »
It's clear that the ballistics of all the tanks are consistant with each gunsight as I tested them all at ranges from .target 400 to .target 3200 and the shells hit exactly where they should.  So if the gunsights have not changed since the previous version (as one person clearly showed by overlaying them) then the ballistics have not changed. 

What's perhaps changed is the default field of view and the apparent visual size of targets in the viewfinder.  Some people are apparently highly skilled at judging range via the apparent size of the target.  If the FOV is different, or the image quality different, this judgement may be thrown off.  For example, some are saying things look "bigger" and others are saying their shots are falling "short".  Well if the target looks bigger and you judge range by target size then you're going to estimate a shorter range and the shell is going to "lob short".

I am not highly skilled at judging range just by looking at the target.  Instead I use the gunsight hash marks (for example if a Panzer is presenting its side view and it is exactly one hash mark wide, it is at 1200 yds range).  This gives an internal calibration so if the FOV changes I still aim the proper distance.

Perhaps this is the source of the discrepancy?

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Re: What happened to the sherman?????
« Reply #124 on: August 01, 2009, 03:53:30 PM »
Look at my pictures. FoV is the same, gunsights are the same, ballistics are identical.

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Re: What happened to the sherman?????
« Reply #125 on: August 01, 2009, 04:02:10 PM »
Look at my pictures. FoV is the same, gunsights are the same, ballistics are identical.

http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,270401.msg3380522.html#msg3380522

Yeah, your FOV is identical but the game now has a FOV setting.  That might have gotten changed somehow for some people.  However, as I posted, I agree that the gunsights and ballistics are identical.

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Re: What happened to the sherman?????
« Reply #126 on: August 01, 2009, 04:28:25 PM »
Nice work Lusche! I was just about to do something similar myself, but I needed to sleep this morning after working last night.
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Re: What happened to the sherman?????
« Reply #127 on: August 01, 2009, 05:04:46 PM »

1. The tank shell seems to drop more then on previous version (seriously throwing off my aim).

Havent tried GVs with this version yet. But I thought the same thing after the last version too.
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Re: What happened to the sherman?????
« Reply #128 on: August 01, 2009, 07:13:42 PM »
I have been Captain Lawndart myself the last couple of days.

As far as the Sherman I see no difference, and have been getting kills with no issues.
Yea Im pretty nasty in a Tank when i get in them for a bit and I noticed one thing in the new M4....1 shot 1 kill everytime, might just be me

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Re: What happened to the sherman?????
« Reply #129 on: August 01, 2009, 07:42:34 PM »
I'm guessing the powers to be have already chimed in.....Did any of u read the info file... why would they take the time to mention the Sherman specifically and not say anything about the trajectory?

I think its just graphical... your brain will adjust to it pretty quick.
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Re: What happened to the sherman?????
« Reply #130 on: August 01, 2009, 09:19:22 PM »
Did youuse to have your head position adjusted in tanks? Moved your head closer to the gunsight?
I am sure early on I was told to move my head all the way forward into the sights.  I never realized that changed the calibration of the hashmarks.  Explains my difficulty in ranging targets when I switch vehicles several times in one night . . .

Also have been times when a plane has pointed out an incoming GV, and I've tried to use the icon distance to range my first shot.  It never seems to work out.  Now I know why. 
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Re: What happened to the sherman?????
« Reply #131 on: August 02, 2009, 02:01:57 AM »
I'm guessing the powers to be have already chimed in.....Did any of u read the info file... why would they take the time to mention the Sherman specifically and not say anything about the trajectory?

I think its just graphical... your brain will adjust to it pretty quick.

I spent many hours honing in my 1 shot no ranging skillllls....I dont whanna start over :cry

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Re: What happened to the sherman?????
« Reply #132 on: August 02, 2009, 03:30:14 AM »
As a side bar the 8inch cruiser guns zoom seems to have a little more magnification with details turned up.  The zoom is defiantly a lot clearer.  With many years experience my ranging has been by site.... Oh that's about 16.5 to 17.5 or what ever.  If that's so (clarity of zoom) it makes sense to me that ones previous perceptions would induce a "short shot".

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