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Re: What happened to the sherman?????
« Reply #15 on: July 31, 2009, 09:16:27 PM »
i just tested, it does seem to be dropping out more than it use too.

seem to be... how did you determine that?

My approach was to remove any subjective judgement:

base at sea level. set target to 1000. center of gunsight at a fixed specific  point on the target (upper edge). fire. see where the shell hits.
Then switch to other version, and repeat.
(Of course making sure that head position relative to gunsight is exact the same)
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Re: What happened to the sherman?????
« Reply #16 on: July 31, 2009, 09:18:57 PM »
seem to be... how did you determine that?
from my 6 year of owning in a GV

thats how i can tell
bro ask anyone.
i use to pop guys 6 and 7 k away in 1 or 2 shots every time.
when i just tested it. it took me forever to find range, and ive never had that problem
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Re: What happened to the sherman?????
« Reply #17 on: July 31, 2009, 09:19:52 PM »
Test it yourself. I prefer a methodological approach.



Way to be empirical Snailman...  Only meaningful testing is against a known control...   :salute
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Re: What happened to the sherman?????
« Reply #18 on: July 31, 2009, 09:19:55 PM »
How about an objective approach, BP?
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Re: What happened to the sherman?????
« Reply #19 on: July 31, 2009, 09:21:08 PM »
when i just tested it. it took me forever to find range, and ive never had that problem
This would most likely be because you're not used to the new terrain. Double as much if you're using low detail.

'It feels kinda different' means nothing.

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Re: What happened to the sherman?????
« Reply #20 on: July 31, 2009, 09:22:47 PM »
Add up my kills in a tank from tour 102 to now I think its near 20,000 in a gv.....the Sherman projectile is NERFED!

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Re: What happened to the sherman?????
« Reply #21 on: July 31, 2009, 09:24:46 PM »
How about an objective approach?
When youve GVed as long as i have. and most GVers. you see the tank, and right off, you know about how far out it is. by sight only. you dont need to see the buildings or trees to get a guess. the GV tells us all we need to know. 2 shots max is all it takes. 1st shot is always a range shot. but now, is seems more like i was throwing curve balls out there. something does seem off with them
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Re: What happened to the sherman?????
« Reply #22 on: July 31, 2009, 09:29:42 PM »
When youve GVed as long as i have. and most GVers. you see the tank, and right off, you know about how far out it is. by sight only. you dont need to see the buildings or trees to get a guess. the GV tells us all we need to know. 2 shots max is all it takes. 1st shot is always a range shot. but now, is seems more like i was throwing curve balls out there. something does seem off with them

Sorry, but I don't think 6 vs 5 years is that much more of an experience

Second, both doesn't matter at all. What you just did was judging by feeling. On a new terrain. Completely subjective, regardles whether you leet 6 year tanker or me noob 5 year tanker were doing it.

That's whay I measured it.

Do an objective test with a verifiable method.

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Re: What happened to the sherman?????
« Reply #23 on: July 31, 2009, 09:34:25 PM »
Sorry, but I don't think 6 vs 5 years is that much more of an experience

Second, both doesn't matter at all. What you just did was judging by feeling. On a new terrain. Completely subjective, regardles whether you leet 6 year tanker or me noob 5 year tanker were doing it.

That's whay I measured it.

Do an objective test.


i dont need too, like i said, forget terrain, you dont use it to guess the distance on a GV, you are only focused on the GV and that GV only (tunnel vision).
you see it, you know round about how far out it is.
Bro, i know what im talking about here,
i trained some of the very best GVers this game has seen,
and i taught them that very way,
NEVER go on what the building size is, NEVER go on the tree size.
look at the GV from a distance long enough, and youll start figuring out how far away they are.
it comes with time,
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Re: What happened to the sherman?????
« Reply #24 on: July 31, 2009, 09:36:38 PM »
 :rofl

Thanks for explaining how to tank after 15,000 GV kills. Never would have thought it needs practice and will "comes with time"

But nice to see you refuse to use any verifiable and comparable approach.

 :rofl again
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Re: What happened to the sherman?????
« Reply #25 on: July 31, 2009, 09:38:24 PM »
:rofl
laugh it up all you want.
all the top GVers in the game WILL agree with me.
but you have your opinion and i have mine, and im pretty sure all the GVers of the game would back me up
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Re: What happened to the sherman?????
« Reply #26 on: July 31, 2009, 09:39:00 PM »
I think the folks who are calling nerf need to post some films of pre-update vs. update...  Otherwise, Lusche seems to hold the high ground...  Of course, Lusche, posting some screenies of your target tests might be helpful too...

Falling into the forum e-peen comparison fight is a mistake on all sides...

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Re: What happened to the sherman?????
« Reply #27 on: July 31, 2009, 09:39:17 PM »
Lusche you are straight up wrong I KNOW ranges I have shot enough rounds out of a Sherman to know within 10-20 yards where my round will fall.

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Re: What happened to the sherman?????
« Reply #28 on: July 31, 2009, 09:40:02 PM »
laugh it up all you want.
all the top GVers in the game WILL agree with me.
but you have your opinion and i have mine, and im pretty sure all the GVers of the game would back me up

I don't give anything about opinions in such a matter. Not your's, not mine.

I prefer objectivity and transparency. Measuring beats feeling.
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Re: What happened to the sherman?????
« Reply #29 on: July 31, 2009, 09:40:20 PM »
Kills per Death + 1     15.36    3
Kills per Sortie    4.55    4
Kills per Hour of Flight    18.94    133
Kills Hit Percentage    84.28    46
Kill Points    369833.05    2
Damage per Death    80178.48    11
Damage per Sortie    23756.59    19
Damage Hit Percentage    233.33    8
Damage Points    7697133.71    3
Field Captures    21    32


there ya go bud, i do believe thats still the AH record for GVing

from me :)
tour 86
95% were range kills
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