Frame Rate II

[Goat1]

I'm reposting this in the hope that Skuzzy will see it:

My frame rate is in the dirt even with detailed terrain turned off, plus my mouse freezes up.
 I've tried all the hints in the other posts with no success.
I know this topic has been beaten to death, but if there is any more ideas that may help I would
appreciate them. Here's what my system looks like:

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System Information
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Time of this report: 8/1/2009, 14:03:29
       Machine name: WILBUR
   Operating System: Windows XP Home Edition (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 3 (2600.xpsp_sp3_gdr.090206-1234)
           Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: HP Pavilion 061
       System Model: DQ175A-ABA A420N
               BIOS: Phoenix - Award BIOS v6.00PG
          Processor: AMD Athlon(tm) XP 3000+,  MMX,  3DNow, ~2.2GHz
             Memory: 1024MB RAM
          Page File: 674MB used, 3327MB available
        Windows Dir: C:\WINDOWS
    DirectX Version: DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904)
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
     DxDiag Version: 5.03.2600.5512 32bit Unicode

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DxDiag Notes
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  DirectX Files Tab: No problems found.
      Display Tab 1: No problems found.
        Sound Tab 1: No problems found.
          Music Tab: No problems found.
          Input Tab: No problems found.
        Network Tab: No problems found.

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DirectX Debug Levels
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Direct3D:    0/4 (n/a)
DirectDraw:  0/4 (retail)
DirectInput: 0/5 (n/a)
DirectMusic: 0/5 (n/a)
DirectPlay:  0/9 (retail)
DirectSound: 0/5 (retail)
DirectShow:  0/6 (retail)

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Display Devices
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        Card name: NVIDIA GeForce 7600 GS
     Manufacturer: NVIDIA
        Chip type: GeForce 7600 GS
         DAC type: Integrated RAMDAC
       Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_02E1&SUBSYS_0380196E&REV_A2
   Display Memory: 512.0 MB
     Current Mode: 1680 x 1050 (32 bit) (60Hz)
          Monitor: Plug and Play Monitor
  Monitor Max Res: 1600,1200
      Driver Name: nv4_disp.dll
   Driver Version: 6.14.0011.9038 (English)
      DDI Version: 9 (or higher)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
 Driver Date/Size: 7/14/2009 12:54:00, 5842816 bytes
      WHQL Logo'd: Yes
  WHQL Date Stamp: n/a
              VDD: n/a
         Mini VDD: nv4_mini.sys
    Mini VDD Date: 7/14/2009 12:54:00, 7741664 bytes
Device Identifier: {D7B71E3E-41A1-11CF-9059-8B2303C2CB35}
        Vendor ID: 0x10DE
        Device ID: 0x02E1
        SubSys ID: 0x0380196E
      Revision ID: 0x00A2
      Revision ID: 0x00A2
      Video Accel: ModeMPEG2_C ModeMPEG2_D ModeWMV9_B ModeWMV9_A
 Deinterlace Caps: {6CB69578-7617-4637-91E5-1C02DB810285}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
                   {335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalSt retch
                   {6CB69578-7617-4637-91E5-1C02DB810285}: Format(In/Out)=(UYVY,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
                   {335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(UYVY,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalSt retch
                   {6CB69578-7617-4637-91E5-1C02DB810285}: Format(In/Out)=(YV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
                   {335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(YV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalSt retch
                   {6CB69578-7617-4637-91E5-1C02DB810285}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
                   {335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalSt retch
         Registry: OK
     DDraw Status: Enabled
       D3D Status: Enabled
       AGP Status: Enabled
DDraw Test Result: Not run
 D3D7 Test Result: Not run
 D3D8 Test Result: Not run
 D3D9 Test Result: Not run


If there is any other information that may help, please let me know.


Just 1 more thing, I'm using a wireless router, would a hard wire connection work better?

Also I checked by CPU usage while in game, jumps from 4-100%.
Looked at the Task Manager and the System Idle Process is jumping from 17-85%.
Any Ideas what is causing this?

Thanks Goat1

[Skuzzy]

In game, the CPU usage should be 100%, all the time.

I am more interested in what is going on when the computer is supposed to be idle.

How many processes are running the background?
What does the "CPU Usage" do in the Task Manager (Processes tab, bottom center; watch it a minute)?

[Goat1]

 I have 46 processes running at idle, I run a program call "Game Booster" that lowers my processes to 30 when I play.
The CPU usage jumps from 0-7% at idle

Thanks;
Goat1

[Skuzzy]

7%!!!  That is just wrong.  It should bounce from 0 to 1, maybe 2 percent.  7 percent is way too high.  While it does not sound like much, the granularity of the Task Manager is quite atrocious.  To show 7%, there could be spikes to 90% going on.

7% indicates you have something pretty heavy running on your computer that you do not know about.

[Denholm]

Goat, could you post a screen shot of the processes running? It will help some of us determine if it's services running or if it's junk running. Either one can be reduced to the 20's.

[Goat1]

Thanks, how do I find out what's running?
Also how do I post a screen shot.

Thanks;
Goat1

[Denholm]

Press Ctrl + Shift + Esc. Now go to the, "Processes" tab. At the bottom left make sure, "Show Processes from all Users" is checked (or clicked). Now expand the window to show as many processes as possible. Now press Alt+Prt Scn (Should be next to scroll lock). Afterward open a program such as Windows Paint (Start>Programs>Accessories>Paint) and press Ctrl + V (Paste). Now simply save the image to a location such as your desktop, upload it to an image-hosting server such as Image Shack, then post the direct link to the image into a post here within

[img][/img]

tags.

[Goat1]

Here's at idle.
[imghttp://img259.imageshack.us/img259/3440/idle1.png][/img]

hope this works

[Goat1]

well that didn't work

[Denholm]

Is it possible to take a larger shot? I can't read any of the list.

[Goat1]

here's another try


thanks for the help,
Goat1

[Irwink!]

You've got waaaay too many processes running and more than a few that are just plain junk, ie: aol anything.

[lazydog]

1 thing get rid of avg i had it.. its always running

[ttflier]

I have almost the same set up as Goat, AMD Athlon 3200 2.2ghz 1.5mb memory with an ATI Radon 512 card and see almost the same symptons.  I am running about 55 processes, tried using Game Booster and it consistently locked up my computer while only dropping the running processes into the mid 40 range.

I can run the 2.14 with graphics off and improved stuttering, however my frame rate fluctuates wildly.  With advanced graphics and even the lowest levels, the game is almost unplayable.

While I am typing this blog, with all programs shut down and 53 processes running, my CPU usage is fluctuating between 2 and 79%

I am open to suggestions.

ttflier

[VonMessa]

I have almost the same set up as Goat, AMD Athlon 3200 2.2ghz 1.5mb memory with an ATI Radon 512 card and see almost the same symptons.  I am running about 55 processes, tried using Game Booster and it consistently locked up my computer while only dropping the running processes into the mid 40 range.

I can run the 2.14 with graphics off and improved stuttering, however my frame rate fluctuates wildly.  With advanced graphics and even the lowest levels, the game is almost unplayable.

While I am typing this blog, with all programs shut down and 53 processes running, my CPU usage is fluctuating between 2 and 79%

I am open to suggestions.

ttflier

50-ish? 

A clean Windows install is ~20.

Wow.  Shut off some stuff.